Questions on Admiral's 1084 alternative (1080)

Wulf

Wulf

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Yesterday I contacted Admiral about purchasing some 1084 and was told that "we are no longer stocking the 1084, it's being replaced with HR 1080." I called the sales department to ask why and was told that all the mills that Admiral had used to produce its 1084 had gone bankrupt. As for the 1084 remaining in inventory, the saleswoman told me that "when it's gone, it's gone."

I inquired via e-mail about the specs of the 1080, and was given the following:

C 0.74/0.88, MN 0.60/0.90, P 0.040 MAX, S 0.050 MAX

Compared to the specs for 1084 (from their website):

C .80/.94, MN .60/.90

If I didn't know any better, I'd assume this 1080 is a very close substitute and will satisfy my needs just fine. That said, I don't know any better. I wonder if anyone here has any thoughts or opinions on the steel. Also, please share experiences you may have had - both good or bad.

Thanks in advance
 
There is a difference, but a subtle one. 1084 shares the same sulfur and phosphorous averages per heat as 1080 and every other AISI carbon steel, from 1005 to 1099. As you can see, the carbon percentages in 1080 and 1084 run into the ranges of each other's "average batch" numbers. So its more than possible that a batch of 1080 could end up being identical to a batch of 1084. You basically won't see much if any difference. Likely none at all. And results will vary with heat treatments. You'll be fine. :cool:

-Jason
 
The 1084 Ive gotten from them has been on the high end of carbon, being more like 1090 or such. There 1080 will probably be more like 1084. Strange but probably the case.
You can lower your quenchant temp a tad, other than that you wont notice any change, maybe a higher succes rate though.

Joe
 
Thanks for replies. I'm still a 'ginner and looking for a nice diversion from forging out the A2 I have lying around (although I've learned a few lessons for sure). Seems like lots of folks really like 1084 so I was a bit spooked when I found out it was no longer going to be available from Admiral... I've placed the order for some 1080, and (you guessed it) 15-N-20. If all goes well I'll be pattern welding in no time! :D
 
"YES - THE COST WILL BE HIGHER BUT NOT TOO MUCH

THE PRICES ON THE SHEARED 1080 MATERIAL WILL BE CLOSE

TO THE PRICES SHOWN FOR THE HR 1095 STEEL ON THE PRICE SHEET

WE WILL PRE-CUT MOST SIZES TO MINIMIZE PROCESSING COSTS

THANK YOU"
The prices are higher now as the 1080 is sheared and reflattened. seems like only a slight rise though.
 
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