Quick & Dirty sharpening for beater knives?

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I have a Spyderco Sharpmaker with the optional diamond rods that I use on my good knives. But I also need something quick and dirty for use on beater knives. It takes a fair amount of time and effort to bring back a really trashed edge even with the Sharpmaker diamond rods, so I find myself willing to use it only on knives that will be properly cared for. But the world seems full of cheap, dull beater knives that would benefit from a little crude sharpening.

I am considering a carbide slot gadget. A prime application would be when I go on vacation and the kitchen in the condo has a set of abused cheap knives that won't cut. I just need a functional edge fast, to use only a few times, and don't want to invest a lot of effort on someone else's junk knives. I'll probably also use this on my wife's Wusthof kitchen knives, but only because my wife just tosses them in the sink, cuts against hard surfaces and otherwise trashes the edges to the point that I am sick of putting a nice edge back on that lasts one day. No amount of explaining how to use a knife will change these habits much.

I have considered the electric sharpeners, but that would be heavy and bulky for travel, so I prefer something compact and manual (and cheaper). I have read that the Accusharp is the best of the carbide slot gadgets (picture below) and would serve this need well. It would take up almost no room in a suitcase and only costs $10-12, which is nice in case I accidentally leave it behind or it gets stolen from my luggage. Would the Accusharp be a good choice?

So, what is the quickest and easiest way to put a merely functional edge on a beater knife? By "functional," I mean that it does not need to shave or cut paper, just cut significantly better than a butter knife. I am willing to accept some minor edge damage or premature wear.
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The edgemaker pro. Hands down. Not just junk knives, it works wonders on all knives. The Red one is all you need if you don't need scary sharp. If you do, get the yellow one too. I have been using these on all my knives for 15-20 years. WARNING this system is to quick and easy for some.

http://www.edgemakerpro.com/
 
You could also try a cheap black silica hone found at almost any hardware store. Cost should be under $10 or even $5.
 
the pull through ones can give decent edges but ive found they can chip out blades, but you said you were ok with that. they dont do anything for tips though

a lansky system may work for you, not as fasted compared to the pul through maybe but its pretty small and can get an edge on pretty well

-matt
 
I keep a DMT Diafold in x-coarse in my bag just for this sort of thing. It will let me put a functional edge on most anything (that was ever sharp at some point in its life) in a few minutes.
 
What about (preferably cheap :)) extra coarse diamond or maybe just coarse file to quickly set up bevel and then something finer (e.g ceramic rod like Sharpmaker's, or fine diamond) to create microbevel (which would take only few passes if primary bevel was set acute enough).
 
A Harbor Freight 1x30 belt sander is almost as inexpensive as the Edgemaker Pro. I can't think of a better way to do a quick and dirty (and decent) sharpening job on beaters.
 
Udtjim,

That Edgemaker Pro looks pretty handy! And yes, its simplicity and my past experiences with pull-through carbide sharpeners is scaring me. What makes it tick?
 
So, what is the quickest and easiest way to put a merely functional edge on a beater knife? By "functional," I mean that it does not need to shave or cut paper, just cut significantly better than a butter knife. I am willing to accept some minor edge damage or premature wear.
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Just strop it on the concrete step out side. Puts on a rough but serviceable edge.
 
+1 on the Edgemaker Pro. I have the yellow honing sharpener with me at work today to put a razor edge on some old timers I had just picked up off of ebay, USA made of course. Got all three to shave my arm after a few minutes of sharpening. This is the final step device, should have brought the red medium and fine steps as well as a camillus knife has been thru the honing device many times and still cannot get it to shave.
 
Carry an 8" mill bastard file with you.
It works wonders.
 
Bought a Lasnky Quick fix a couple of months ago with the same reasoning, and have been satisfied with it.

It\s handy because unless the edge really needs straightening, you can just hit it with the Ceramic V, without having to let your edge touch carbide.

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If QUICK & DIRTY, EASY and PORTABLE are your priorities for a "functional edge", the Accusharp will probably do. Search the forums for "Edgemaker Pro" (another pull-thru type sharpener) and you will find many who praise it for doing what you want. This will cause many here to cringe, but their priorities are different. Less time sharpening the "condo" knives leaves more time vacationing. :) There is life beyond sharp knives. :D
 
Thanks for all the great suggestions. The freehand options are very sensible, but I am leaning away from those because I have always used an angle system and am just more comfortable with those. Plus, working both sides at once seems like it would be faster.

What kind of time are we talking about here to sharpen a really dull knife? Think cheap steak knife that is a decade or more old and has never been sharpened. One of the carbide devices claims to be a 10-second sharpener. I like the idea of that, but I realize that may be hype. Would an Edgemaker Pro (just the red one) or something like the Lansky carbide slot device pictured above or an Accusharp come close to that? If one would take half a minute and the other several minutes, that would be a difference for me. Again, just a quickie job to get to a serviceable edge.

Also, are the Edgemaker Pro's likely to be available at any local chain stores (preferred) or is mail order the best bet?
 
I can't remember what they're called, but the striated steel V sharpeners work well. They sharpen in a hurry and will put a serviceable edge on junk knives. They take up virtually no space and are inexpensive. I have both the single V with a small plastic holder and a larger set with proper handles. You can use light oil for a better edge. The striations remove metal, so they are not a something to use for long term sharpening of good knives. I have been told that you can dip the sharpeners in boiling water and turn the rods with vice grips to expose a "new" sharpening surface when the old surface wears out. I've given lots of these away as presents to friends and relatives who'd like to have a sharper knife, but who really can't be bothered.
 
Thanks again for all the discussion. Based on the comments above, the Edgemaker Pro looks like the way to go. However, I ran across an Accusharp in the hardware store and picked it up to try it out. I have to say that I am fairly impressed with this.

The Accusharp works fast, puts a good edge on (barely shaving) and if you lift the handle a bit higher, it will steel the edge as well. I've done a set of good Henckles steak knives and a Wusthof Chef's knife and a couple others with good results. I've examined the edges under a 30x microscope and the edges look good with no chipping or gouging. Just slightly wavier than my reference edge which is a factory benchmade edge honed once with the Sharpmaker fine stones, using only the flat sides of the stones. Accusharp will work somewhat on a serrated edge if you stroke it in both directions, but it is not the best option for serrated. I'd imagine the Edgemaker Pro would handle serrations better. I plan to pick up an Edgemaker Pro at some point. But the Accusharp works great and I can give it a big thumbs up! Also, for home use it has a lifetime warranty which covers the carbide cutters wearing out. The cutters are also reversible. And it's only about $10. I would estimate the edge angle at 45 degrees inclusive (22.5 bevels).

I'm still not quite ready to take a slot device to my quality pocket knives, but for kitchen knives and beaters, I think a good pull-through sharpener is far more practical than a crock stick or clamp/rod system and really the only way to go, especially when time and effort is any kind of consideration. I wish I had gotten something like this with my first pocket knife as a kid.
 
A Harbor Freight 1x30 belt sander is almost as inexpensive as the Edgemaker Pro. I can't think of a better way to do a quick and dirty (and decent) sharpening job on beaters.

Lurker,

Shecky is right - you won't believe how much faster the HF belt sander is than just about any other system. It can do a fast, rough edge, or a fine, highly polished edge. It just depends on what you want.

The sander from HF, and a selection of belts from Lee Valley will run you much less than the EdgePro.

I sharpen my wife's kitchen knives on them - quick and easy!
 
Have you tried a sharpening steel yet? It may be that your wife is just rolling the edge in spots.
 
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