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I ordered a Cyclone 1630 after reading the Cyclone vs. Tenacious thread. I must say the Cyclone is bad ass! It is the sharpest knife I've even gotten out of the box...even more so than the Spydercos I've had. Works great but I noticed that the blade wasn't quite centered and so looking for a reason why I noticed that the knife has 2 different sized bronze washers sanwiched between both sides of the blade and the liners...Is that the way it is supposed to be and could that be why the blade is not exactly aligned?
 
re; blade not centering caused by different size washers. In a word no. Most of the frame lock and liner lock knives have a smaller diameter washer on the lock side of the blade for lock clearance. Most times, an adjustment of the pivot tightness will center the blade.

Tom
 
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I ordered a Cyclone 1630 after reading the Cyclone vs. Tenacious thread. I must say the Cyclone is bad ass! It is the sharpest knife I've even gotten out of the box...even more so than the Spydercos I've had. Works great but I noticed that the blade wasn't quite centered and so looking for a reason why I noticed that the knife has 2 different sized bronze washers sanwiched between both sides of the blade and the liners...Is that the way it is supposed to be and could that be why the blade is not exactly aligned?
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The washers are as they should be. Try switching the AO off and check the blade centering. I am thinking that the blade will go centered with it off. Let me know one way or another
 
Switching the AO on or off doesn't change anything. Also, I'm still confused why there the knife has two different sized washers because the larger one is on the side that the liner lock is on...
 
The smaller washer is on the side where the torsion bar hooks to the blade. There is a small hold drilled in the blade near the pivot. One end of the torsion bar hooks there and the other typically hooks into a slot on the back spacer, therefore, you have to have the smaller washer, or, in some cases (ZT0300) Kershaw will use a slotted washer to allow for travel. How bad is it off center? If it isn't scraping anything you can usually loosen the pivot and apply a little pressure in the direction of center while tightening the pivot and it will go straight.
 
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Switching the AO on or off doesn't change anything. Also, I'm still confused why there the knife has two different sized washers because the larger one is on the side that the liner lock is on...
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It may be that the smaller washer is used to clear the torsion bar where it engages the blade.

Tom
 
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The smaller washer is on the side where the torsion bar hooks to the blade. There is a small hold drilled in the blade near the pivot. One end of the torsion bar hooks there and the other typically hooks into a slot on the back spacer, therefore, you have to have the smaller washer, or, in some cases (ZT0300) Kershaw will use a slotted washer to allow for travel. How bad is it off center? If it isn't scraping anything you can usually loosen the pivot and apply a little pressure in the direction of center while tightening the pivot and it will go straight.
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That explains it. Thank you! I'm going to try adjusting the pivot screw tomorrow and we'll see if it works.
Cheers.
 
T Schloz is correct about the different size of the phosphor bronze washers.

As for the blade centering, I'd be willing to bet that when closed the blade is closest to the non-lock side. I have many liner locks, popular brands other than Kershaw, and most will exhibit this when new. It is just the tension of the lock pushing against the blade. If the blade does not scrape the liner when closing, it's OK. If it really bugs you, call Kershaw and ask about sending it in for a quick look see. Or try the pivot adjustment tweak spiral mentioned.
 
I haven't met a blade I couldn't get centered yet. Sometimes a complete teardown is in order, but it always works for me. It's all in what your comfortable with. I don't think I will ever send a knife back to Kershaw unless they ask to inspect it in person.
 
J_Curd said:
I haven't met a blade I couldn't get centered yet. Sometimes a complete teardown is in order, but it always works for me. It's all in what your comfortable with. I don't think I will ever send a knife back to Kershaw unless they ask to inspect it in person.
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My Rainbow Groove is WAY off (it just BARELY clears the liners), and the blade is very noticeably at a different angle than the handle when the knife is open.

If I tighten the pivot up big time, it centers it, but then the knife barely opens. Doesn't bother me that much cause I don't carry it, it's my $60 safe queen. :D
 
Disassemble it, put pressure in one direction on the back scale, and opposite pressure on the front scale...tighten it up. If that doesnt work, switch the direction of the pressure. Do the scales before even bothering with the pivot. You can also close the knife and hold the blade against the slab you need to move towards when tightening the screws.

I promise, you can tune them all.
 
I just got a chance to read up on this thread again and let me thank you all for being on the case! I called up CS and they are sending me the Torx wrench (etc.) to open it up and play around with the pivot screw and what not. Let me wait till I get their package and then I will write again with an up to date status report.
Cheers!
 
How about this for a first post - this thread saved my Ener-G2 1745 from a trip back to Kershaw. I had it boxed up and ready to go but then I found this thread. The blade was just touching the non-lock side liner and the lock was engaging all the way to the far side. After reading this I tried the loosen-pivot-push-blade-tighten-pivot technique described by SpiralArchitect and it got better, then I tried the pressure-on-the-scales method described by J_Curd and BINGO! Now I'm perfectly centered and the lock engages perfectly as well. Tried it on my Zing that had an off-center blade it got it centered up as well. Thanks for the help!
 
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How about this for a first post - this thread saved my Ener-G2 1745 from a trip back to Kershaw. I had it boxed up and ready to go but then I found this thread. The blade was just touching the non-lock side liner and the lock was engaging all the way to the far side. After reading this I tried the loosen-pivot-push-blade-tighten-pivot technique described by SpiralArchitect and it got better, then I tried the pressure-on-the-scales method described by J_Curd and BINGO! Now I'm perfectly centered and the lock engages perfectly as well. Tried it on my Zing that had an off-center blade it got it centered up as well. Thanks for the help!
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Welcome to the forums! Glad you got your Ener-G sorted out. There's a bunch of good info here. Just ask! :thumbup:
 
Glad I was of some assistance guys...beats trial and error (thats how we do things in KY) :D
 
Not sure I entirely understand J Curd's method... Any chance of a bit more specific / detailed explanation? Not so crystal clear on the direction of pressure O.o
 
Lock1454 said:
Not sure I entirely understand J Curd's method... Any chance of a bit more specific / detailed explanation? Not so crystal clear on the direction of pressure O.o
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Apply pressure to the scales/slabs along the long axis of the knife.
Shifting the sides of the knife in relation to each other in this direction will change the angle of the axis of the pivot in relation to the handle.
 
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