Quick opening/Quick draw

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what would you say is the best folder for quick opening/quick draw?

emerson commander? kershaw with speed safe? how do they compare to autos? anyone made a test to compare? how quick can you be (with reasonable training) with a spyderco? is their hole better for this than a thumbstud? where would you wear your folder in order to draw it quick?
 
Quick draw??? Sounds like you watch a lot of westerns. Like maybe James Coburn in the "Magnificent Seven" now he had a quick opening quick draw knife it was so quick he killed a bad guy in a draw down against a gun! Now thats quick. You ask alot of questions about knives as weapons instead of tools.Maybe you need to go to the Practical Tactical forum or any of the dozens of other forums out there for wanna be knife fighters. Oh well summer is almost over and school begins soon.
Bob
 
Hi Strider,

I'm sure the wave on the Emerson Commander, Speed Safe on Kershaw, autos etc are just for kids on holidays... so let's us kids discuss these functions, and you grown men can go and read other posts... thanks!

 
As for the romance of tactical knife fighting... a guy I talked to, a guy who has actually used knives against humans while in the military told me that the reality of knife fighting is piss-poor. In a knife fight BOTH combatants end up get cut and cut badly. Sounds like NOTHING to look forward to!

Ben
 
I'm sure there's situations where both get cut, and a lot more where that doesn't happen... nevertheless, a "fight" is nothing to look forward to...

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Who are you planning on "quick drawing" upon?

Brandon

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Maybe QuickDraw Mcgraw. Or who was his buddy Bubbaloo???? Hey maybe him and Huckleberry Hound dog in a celebrity death match.
Bob
 
if you end up in a situation where you would need to draw a knife, would you rather

a) draw it quick

or

b) draw it slow and while your being cut to pieces by the attacker, think about strider's "funny" comments?

Originally posted by Elvislives:
Who are you planning on "quick drawing" upon?

Brandon


 
Hey Chariot
Do you have a lot of people after you? Maybe live in a rough area? Or maybe just paranoid? Like I said why don't you take this to forums where people with knowledge on these subjects can verse you or maybe in your case chastise you. Gee I wasn't trying to be funny sorry if I came off that way.Why don't you start a new thread about another good way to use a knife to kill people and I promise I will be serious.
Bob
 

Do you have a lot of people after you?

- No do you have to in order to value a quick draw?


Maybe live in a rough area?

- No do you have to in order to value a quick draw?

Or maybe just paranoid?

- No do you have to be in order to value a quick draw?

Like I said why don't you take this to forums where people with knowledge on these subjects can verse you or maybe in your case chastise you.

- Are you the moderator of this forum?

Gee I wasn't trying to be funny sorry if I came off that way.Why don't you start a new thread about another good way to use a knife to kill people and I promise I will be serious.

- What has killing people to do with a discussion about knives that can be pulled quickly?

I don't follow you, sorry... but it's your life, if you don't take self-defense seriously, well one day you might wished you did... to me, self-defense is far more important than being an online jester...




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Chariot, a lot of folks have noticed that you seem to be very interested in 'self-defense' applications for edged tools. Your frequent posts asking relatively ignorant questions about use of knives as weapons are beginning to annoy some of us. And your responses to some folks comments expressing that annoyance are not helpful to your cause. In particular, engaging in a battle of words with an experienced and respected forumite like Strider is not a very good tactical strategy. You can not win, and you have a lot to lose.

My comments are Not intended disrespectfully. I just think you should ask some of your questions in a more appropriate area, such as the tactics and training forums.

You have been here less than one month and you are starting to get quite a reputation. Come on over the the Whine and Cheese forum or join us in IRC chat some night (any newnet IRC server, chat channel: #bladeforums.com) if you want to know what folks think about you.

Everyone here develops some sort of reputation over time. Spark likes to say 'you reap what you sow'. I've seen a lot of new forum members unwittingly get in fights that they would have been better off avoiding in the first place. Listen more. Argue less.

Some of us appreciate knives as tools. Some as weapons. Some folks like knives for Both reasons. All of these Are legitimate topics for knife discussions. But Bladeforums.com is divided into different areas to allow for the best possible discussions about a variety of knives and knife uses.

The use of knives in self defense applications is a very serious matter. Much more knowledge and training is necessary than can even begin to be discussed here. Your questions and responses say a lot about your level of knowledge, experiance, and maturity. They would be best answered in the practical tactical forum. That is an area specifically created for these kind of discussions. Also check out the filipino combat arts forum and the common sense street defense forum. All of these forums are in the Tactics and Training area of Bladeforums.com. The folks posting in those areas are much more prepared to answer your questions and will give you good advice. And you will not (probably) offend as many folks there.

Best wishes for a long and happy life.

Paracelsus, I do most of my drawing with a fixed blade number 2 pencil that I stash behind my left ear for rapid deployment. It's sharp, concealable, and very lethal if necessary.
 

Chariot, a lot of folks have noticed that you seem to be very interested in 'self-defense' applications for edged tools. Your frequent posts asking relatively ignorant questions about use of knives as weapons are beginning to annoy some of us.

- Really, what ignorant questions are that? If my questions are so stupid, how come they're almost always smoking with 25-30+ replies? Gee, people must be really ignorant, if they discuss ignorant questions all the time! Besides, NOT asking questions, that's really ignorant to me...

If you find yourself annoyed by my questions, by all means, go read some other questions, I'm sure there's plenty of posts on this forum to keep you occupied...


And your responses to some folks comments expressing that annoyance are not helpful to your cause. In particular, engaging in a battle of words with an experienced and respected forumite like Strider is not a very good tactical strategy. You can not win, and you have a lot to lose.

- Strider should be experienced enough to avoid questions that doesn't interest or concern him, personally I would NEVER reply to something that I found uninteresting, but then some people have way too much time on their hands...


My comments are Not intended disrespectfully. I just think you should ask some of your questions in a more appropriate area, such as the tactics and training forums.

- A general question, such as the construction of a folded knife (the wave feature on the Emerson Commander, the speedlock etc.) belongs in this forum, if not I'd wait for the actual forum MODERATORS to move it to the appropriate forum... there's a time and place for everything...

You have been here less than one month and you are starting to get quite a reputation. Come on over the the Whine and Cheese forum or join us in IRC chat some night (any newnet IRC server, chat channel: #bladeforums.com) if you want to know what folks think about you.

- I don't care what folks think about me, I'm probably learning more in a month, than many people do in years, and that's all that matters to me. I'm a beginner in knives AND self-defense, and I've said it from day 1, by asking questions *I LEARN* learning is more important to me than being a wiseass on some internet board...

Everyone here develops some sort of reputation over time. Spark likes to say 'you reap what you sow'. I've seen a lot of new forum members unwittingly get in fights that they would have been better off avoiding in the first place. Listen more. Argue less.

- I don't argue, I'm not the one talking about UNRELEVANT things... i mention quick draw features in knives, Strider mention movies and killing? Your advice would be better suited for him...


Some of us appreciate knives as tools. Some as weapons. Some folks like knives for Both reasons. All of these Are legitimate topics for knife discussions. But Bladeforums.com is divided into different areas to allow for the best possible discussions about a variety of knives and knife uses.

The use of knives in self defense applications is a very serious matter. Much more knowledge and training is necessary than can even begin to be discussed here. Your questions and responses say a lot about your level of knowledge, experiance, and maturity. They would be best answered in the practical tactical forum. That is an area specifically created for these kind of discussions. Also check out the filipino combat arts forum and the common sense street defense forum. All of these forums are in the Tactics and Training area of Bladeforums.com. The folks posting in those areas are much more prepared to answer your questions and will give you good advice. And you will not (probably) offend as many folks there.

- I'm active there as well... go figure.

Best wishes for a long and happy life.



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So take that, Paracelsus.

Char-id-iot doesn't care what kids like you and Strider think of him. He can waste all the bandwidth he wants with his "smoking" topics.

Never mind that he says in a thread over at Practical Tactical that he's spending 5+ hours here, OTHER people like Strider have too much time on their hands.

He has alot to learn, and not long to learn it, Para. School year is gonna be starting back up in a month or so and they have way harder math questions in the SEVENTH grade. And if he just keeps at it, he'll make the rank of Neighborhood Deathmaster by fall quarter.

Now take that rapier wit of yours and cut him some slack, 'cuz your opinion is UNRELEVANT. See ya back at W/C.
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[This message has been edited by Velitrius (edited 07-27-2000).]
 

Never mind that he says in a thread over at Practical Tactical that he's spending 5+ hours here, OTHER people like Strider have too much time on their hands.

- true, the first 24 hours i DID spend 5+ hours here, there was a lot to read, and a lot to learn... i believe when you find something new, you spend more time with it...

 
Now just wait a minute I do not I repeat do not have to much time on my hands.Hell I don't even wear a wristwatch. Paracelsus thank you for painting me in such a good light it will make my mother proud. And to you Chariot the Wizard says.......wrong thread oh well. Anyway to you Chariot. Yeah I yanked your chain. And I begrudgingly admit your right theres not a damn thing wrong with asking questions. Thats what this place is all about.learning. Just do me a favor will ya? Don't start any "How much do you love your knives"threads allright
Bob
 
GEEZE GUYS...LIGHTEN-UP on the kid.
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Maybe he IS just trying to LEARN a little bit from us OLD FARTS that have "been there, done that". (I don't have a clue what age most of you guys [and/or gals] are)...I'm 46, and I really DON'T mind "sharing" what info I've managed to learn through-out my years...

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Go to a knife store and try the knives out. See what fits your hands better and which one is more comfortable to you. Certain knives "fit" certain people better. BTW, how old are you? I'm 15. I would suggest you just buy an automatic. Start with a Microtech UDT. That is what I did.

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Too much "personality stuff" in this thread.

Locking it.

There are a couple of tactical forums around here where the martial arts guys would be happy to discuss fast deployment, for social emergencies, or just because you really want to get at whatever's in that package.
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