Quickest High Quality Folder Deployment Using Thumb Stud?

[JH225]

So, as a counter to the flipper thread, my constantly overthinking brain came up with another "which one" thought.

In today's market of semi-custom (mid-tech) and/or custom folders, which particular knife do you feel has the quickest thumb stud deployment?

Parameters being..............
1. Not assisted
2. Not a Flipper
3. Not a Wave (had many Emersons until I got sliced reaching into my pocket due to poor detent?)
4. Not a "Spydie" hole
5. Must be a Frame lock
6. Less than 4" blade

So basically, a Titanium frame lock of high quality, that locks up as it should and is quick to deploy.

Also, not looking for an overbuilt beast of a knife that is hard to EDC because it is as thick as a Dagwood sammich.

Note that I have a large Sebenza, and while a superb knife, it most certainly is not quick to deploy.

And no, I'm not looking to be Rambo Jr. in case you were wondering.

 

[Sharp & Fiery]

Honestly...i find the Kizer T1 (Task) to be very quick and snappy. Everything your looking for! Check it out. Ceramic detent and bearings. Super well made too. (Not a rep, just really like that particular knife)

 

[RBid]

Honestly...i find the Kizer T1 (Task) to be very quick and snappy. Everything your looking for! Check it out. Ceramic detent and bearings. Super well made too. (Not a rep, just really like that particular knife)

Beat me to it!

 

[ScooterG]

Spartan Harsey again. Can easily middle finger flick it.

 

[BilboBaggins]

Jason Guthrie Scout flies out like nobody’s business. Not that it makes any difference whatsoever, but it’s a rocket. I have to really try to open it slowly as the detent isn’t tuned for a slow roll out.

 

[JH225]

Honestly...i find the Kizer T1 (Task) to be very quick and snappy. Everything your looking for! Check it out. Ceramic detent and bearings. Super well made too. (Not a rep, just really like that particular knife)

Thanks, I'll have to look at them.

Spartan Harsey again. Can easily middle finger flick it.

If I understand correctly, you are saying that as a right handed person, you are using your right hand middle finger along with the right hand side (lock side) thumb stud to open the knife?

To me, in playing out that scenario on a dual thumb stud knife, that means you have to choke up on the knife a great amount, flip the knife open, and then re-grip, as your hand is now not in correct position.

Or, are you a lefty? (because that makes more sense)

 

[ScooterG]

Thanks, I'll have to look at them.



If I understand correctly, you are saying that as a right handed person, you are using your right hand middle finger along with the right hand side (lock side) thumb stud to open the knife?

To me, in playing out that scenario on a dual thumb stud knife, that means you have to choke up on the knife a great amount, flip the knife open, and then re-grip, as your hand is now not in correct position.

Or, are you a lefty? (because that makes more sense)

Not a lefty. I don’t need to choke up at all. Hand is in the same position a Spyderco would be...flick and wrap fingers around handle.

 

[JH225]

Not a lefty. I don’t need to choke up at all. Hand is in the same position a Spyderco would be...flick and wrap fingers around handle.

Gotcha.

I have been using only my thumb for many, many years. Not really any interest in trying to reprogram my brain. Other thing being that when using the right side to flick open, you are having to re-grip as your finger is moving away from frame. When using your thumb, fingers are already in place, and just wrap around.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[longun]

These might not be up your alley but...…
For me the Enzo Birk is really a fast thumbing knife.
And so is the Benchmade 940. Or maybe any Axis Lock Benchmade.
So are the ZT 620 and 630 knives, with the added advantage of the wave.

 

[DrRollinstein]

I think most thumb stud knives are going to be close enough to the same speed that it won't matter. As long as you know how to properly use a thumb stud, they should all fire out just fine.

Id also recommend trying a spyderco at least once. Once you've got the middle finger flick practiced, it's a blast.

 

[Sergeua]

Gotcha.

I have been using only my thumb for many, many years. Not really any interest in trying to reprogram my brain. Other thing being that when using the right side to flick open, you are having to re-grip as your finger is moving away from frame. When using your thumb, fingers are already in place, and just wrap around.

Different strokes for different folks.

Go to 12 seconds of my video, pause and examine the way i retain the knife in my hand. If it's framelock I wouldn't be applying any force on lockbar and then there is also no repositioning after. You can do the point finger flick and your fingers are even more in position.

 

[JH225]

These might not be up your alley but...…
For me the Enzo Birk is really a fast thumbing knife.
And so is the Benchmade 940. Or maybe any Axis Lock Benchmade.
So are the ZT 620 and 630 knives, with the added advantage of the wave.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Looked at the Birk. Design doesn’t do it for me.

Had plenty of Benchmades over the years, and while a good knife, I don’t consider them at the same level as say a CRK or the like.

The waved Emerson or an Emerson collaboration isn’t for me. They may have improved detent since I last tried them 15+ yrs ago. But I will never trust them after getting sliced by that Commander way back when. If you’ve ever stuck your hand in your pocket and had your finger sliced by a partially open knife, it kind of stays with you. LOL!

 

[JH225]

Go to 12 seconds of my video, pause and examine the way i retain the knife in my hand. If it's framelock I wouldn't be applying any force on lockbar and then there is also no repositioning after. You can do the point finger flick and you fingers are even more in position.

You actually proved my point with the video. Thanks.

Seriously though, watch your video and at about the 10 second mark, when you flick open with your thumb, note the position of your fingers. They are already wrapped around the knife.

Then watch what you said. At the 12 second mark, you use your middle finger. Note the position not just of that finger, but of all your fingers. Basically, your hand is completely open with fingers pointed away from the knife frame. You then have to reposition in order to get a proper grip.

 

[Sergeua]

You actually proved my point with the video. Thanks.

Seriously though, watch your video and at about the 10 second mark, when you flick open with your thumb, note the position of your fingers. They are already wrapped around the knife.

Then watch what you said. At the 12 second mark, you use your middle finger. Note the position not just of that finger, but of all your fingers. Basically, your hand is completely open with fingers pointed away from the knife frame. You then have to reposition in order to get a proper grip.

Oh ic. I thought you had this issue after deploying it. All this stuff is for paying around basically or for when you pick up a knife from table or from your jacket and it sits differently in your hand. For out of right pocket clipped position, i agree, the thumb goes on the trigger and it's the best way. Sebenza works pretty fast for me this way btw.

Or it seems like again i didn't understand you. There's too much shit going on around me lol.
I don't have to keep my fingers open all the way like that. It's not much repositioning anyway they just wrap back around. If you do point finger flick its going to be closer to your thumb flick you are describing.

 

[JH225]

Oh ic. I thought you had this issue after deploying it. All this stuff is for paying around basically or for when you pick up a knife from table or from your jacket and it sits differently in your hand. For out of right pocket clipped position, i agree, the thumb goes on the trigger and it's the best way. Sebenza works pretty fast for me this way btw.

Or it seems like again i didn't understand you. There's too much shit going on around me lol.
I don't have to keep my fingers open all the way like that. It's not much repositioning anyway they just wrap back around. If you do point finger flick its going to be closer to your thumb flick you are describing.

First part you have above is correct.

I don’t play with my tools, I use them. Right front pocket carry. And just like a pistol, quickest way to get on target is the one with the least movement.

And yes, I understand you don’t have to keep your whole hand open when flicking, but fact remains that you do have to reposition. There really is no way around it, as you grip a knife with fingers, not thumb.

 

[ScooterG]

Gotcha.

I have been using only my thumb for many, many years. Not really any interest in trying to reprogram my brain. Other thing being that when using the right side to flick open, you are having to re-grip as your finger is moving away from frame. When using your thumb, fingers are already in place, and just wrap around.

Different strokes for different folks.

No re-gripping here. *shrug*

 

[JH225]

No re-gripping here. *shrug*

Not a problem.

As I said before, different strokes for different folks.

 

[Wowbagger]

Rules shmuules.

These deploy quick like a bunny though. The Cold Steel Ti Lite IV.
Hey at least it has the Word " Ti " in the name ! (there are titanium ones out there; these are much lighter in fact).
Certainly the fastest I've experienced. Yes it has the pocket hook but I'm not talking about that and I have actually removed a hook on one of mine for better ergos.
The detent is just resistant enough to opening to where when it does let go boy howdy !
WhamO it's open !
OK it's four inches. Cut it down. Make it how you like it. I do !
That's where the "Custom" comes in . . . it's up to you.

One of my other knives that just opens so fast and with zero wrist or flourish and extra quiet too (the Ti Lite makes quite an entrance sound wise) . . . is my Benchmade 710.
Opens RIGHT NOW !
It is very friendly to the thumb and easy to open (doesn't take practice and holding one's tongue just right).

 

[Wowbagger]

Not a lefty. I don’t need to choke up at all. Hand is in the same position a Spyderco would be...flick and wrap fingers around handle.

I had to try that one.
I failed miserably with a 710 and a Griptillian.
Something for me to keep in mind . . . hmmmmm . . .

 

[ScooterG]

I had to try that one.
I failed miserably with a 710 and a Griptillian.
Something for me to keep in mind . . . hmmmmm . . .

Careful not to hold your thumb (edit...forefinger) too close to the axis lock.