railroad spikes

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I am interested in forging a blade out of a railroad spike, can anyone tell me what the difference is ? some have "hc" some have"h" and some have "s" and some have "v" on the heads can anyone tell me if some are better than others, and what is the best way to heat treat them after forging?
thanks Dan

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HC means they are a modern spike for use with the spike driving machines, most are about .35 to .40 carbon aand will not hold a great edge. A few more points of hardness can be gained by quenching them in superquench.
Of course I don't think the reason we make spike knifes is for performance. Quench the blade in superquench or water, there is no need to temper.

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Sola Fide
 
Good info mikeS. Dan if you need any spike I would be happy to send you some for one finished product.




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I just bought the Gun Digest Book of Knives (5th edition) and there is an article in there on a guy who makes railroad spike knives. According to that book, the HC on spikes means High Carbon and so you can make a decent knife out of them!!! I don't know a thing about railroad spikes, except what I read and what mike says seem to be at odds eh!

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HC on a railroad spike does mean high carbon, but the carbon content of the HC is still about .35 to .40 percent the unmarked ones are less than this content. I have heard that sometimes rail or axles are rerolled to make spikes.
NONE of the spikes that I have forged and quenched had better edge holding than mild steel.
BUT, that is not the reason people make knifes out of them. Over at www.anvilfire.com is a tutorial for making a hawk or hatchet from one.
I know a man that makes buffalo heads and eagle head knives from spikes, he has even made a folder from the spikes, pineapple twist handles etc.
Spikes make quite a nifty sale item.
I am not trying to discourage any one from using them but it is good to know what to expect when you do.
I have seen this subject bounced around on the net for the past two years always the HC is brought up as proof that they are a good edge holding material, on the swordforum somone, sorry I don't remember who actually, perservered in getting an answer from a person in the know at a railroad. That's what I have relayed here. So pick some up and beat em flat see what you have, it doesn't take too long, and it's good practise I think.
If I haven't gone on too long about this subject let me know and I'll try to think of something else.

Oh yeah, want to work up a real sweat, cut off a chunk of rail and beat that into a knife it is about 1075 with a little bit of stuff added to make it work harden and tough.

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Sola Fide
 
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I've made dozens of carving sets from R.R spikes and all knives were water quenched. I had some tested and confirmed to be 1040, medium carbon, I also forge in coal which adds (I THINK) carbon if done properly. The Rockwell on these blades runs between 50-53. I DO NOT consider this acceptable for everyday using knives, but for carving up the Christmas Goose(ham,brisket,turkey,your choice here), where you sharpen it at the table and then start slicing, they work fine and are the envy of all your family.

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Bearclaw, I have to agree with you people love the things I think they are neat too!

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Sola Fide
 
Originally posted by mikeS:
HC on a railroad spike does mean high carbon, but the carbon content of the HC is still about .35 to .40 percent the unmarked ones are less than this content. I have heard that sometimes rail or axles are rerolled to make spikes.
NONE of the spikes that I have forged and quenched had better edge holding than mild steel.
BUT, that is not the reason people make knifes out of them. Over at www.anvilfire.com is a tutorial for making a hawk or hatchet from one.
I know a man that makes buffalo heads and eagle head knives from spikes, he has even made a folder from the spikes, pineapple twist handles etc.
Spikes make quite a nifty sale item.
I am not trying to discourage any one from using them but it is good to know what to expect when you do.
I have seen this subject bounced around on the net for the past two years always the HC is brought up as proof that they are a good edge holding material, on the swordforum somone, sorry I don't remember who actually, perservered in getting an answer from a person in the know at a railroad. That's what I have relayed here. So pick some up and beat em flat see what you have, it doesn't take too long, and it's good practise I think.
If I haven't gone on too long about this subject let me know and I'll try to think of something else.

Oh yeah, want to work up a real sweat, cut off a chunk of rail and beat that into a knife it is about 1075 with a little bit of stuff added to make it work harden and tough.

Thanks Mike, I've been searching for the hatchet on angelfire .com, where the ---- is it thanks Dan
 
D., It's anvilfire not angelfire the tutorial is on the iforge page.

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Sola Fide
 
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