Real or Historically Authentic Gurkha Kukri

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I thought that being new to the knife forum, perhaps some members out there would know more about this subject than me. I am a living historian schoolteacher at a private school and the administration is pretty lenient about me wearing my uniforms to school for Social Studies lessons (the kids love it) so being somewhat of an anglophile, I began telling my students about the Gurkha troops employed by the British Army during both world wars. So of course, having sparked their interest, I either want to purchase an original WWII Gurkha kukri or find the absolute most authentic one out there and purchase that. I know that there's lots of crappy "tourist models" that I absolutely want to avoid. I've actually done a good deal of research but I wanted to hear from some experts, too. I bid on an "m43" model on ebay the other day but I only bid $100 and it went for about $139.00 Tell me, WHO makes the most authentic one, or does anyone know where I can find an original WWII Gurkha kukri? It seems like John Powell is the authority on this, but I was unable to find his e-mail address. If you can help please respond. Thanks.
 
You might want to check out the antique kukris from Atlanta Cutlery, which they brought back from the Nepalese Royal Armory. I could've sworn at one time they also offered kuks that were actually carried in WWII, but maybe they ran out of 'em. Now they've just got the ~100 year old ones.

I can make no claims as to the quality of these in terms of materials, workmanship, and heat treat. (the one I got was soft as brass.) But at least they are authentic.
 
If you buy one made in Nepal you will be getting something pretty authentic. Not all are of the same quality, but you can consider them authentic. The Nepalese kukhuris are all hand made. The tourist models to which you refer are mostly made in India. There are some Chinese made models as well and even some from Pakistan. Look for Made in Nepal. They put it on all their knives.
 
While you're here, would you mind educating us on why the Gurkha were important? Were they just badass or what?
 
You might want to check out the antique kukris from Atlanta Cutlery, which they brought back from the Nepalese Royal Armory. I could've sworn at one time they also offered kuks that were actually carried in WWII, but maybe they ran out of 'em. Now they've just got the ~100 year old ones.

I can make no claims as to the quality of these in terms of materials, workmanship, and heat treat. (the one I got was soft as brass.) But at least they are authentic.
Their selection is pretty slim now. Atlanta Cutlery did have WWII models, and as I recall they were well under $100. I bought one of the very old Longleaf khukris and it is an authentic antique, obviously hand-made and stamped with various military markings.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
First of all, thanks to all who responded...in all my years I've never belonged to any kind of forum, and thanks to all who gave their time. I appreciate it. As to the Gurkhas, what sparked my interest was reading "The Gurkhas" by Byron Farwell...a very good book and a quick read. The Gurkhas actually at first fought AGAINST the British army, but the Brits were so impressed by the tough little men that they began to RECRUIT them almost as fast as they fought against them. I could go on forever but I think what FASCINATED me about these troops is that they are such an interesting military force with lots of tradition and an equal number of quirks...the author even states that "Fear is almost unknown to these men." To illustrate, during WWI and WWII, the Gurkhas fought for the British on almost all fronts. What was interesting is that really VERY FEW of them even knew what was going on in the world as far as the politics of the war were concerned...they just went and fought, well...because it was a fight and bravery is a very important personal characteristic to them! I find that astonishing and impressive, and I think that's what hooked me into their BADASSDOM.
 
Smegmalicious said:
While you're here, would you mind educating us on why the Gurkha were important? Were they just badass or what?

They are absolutely fearless and were often given the job of clearing trenches of enemy. They are a formidable fighting force armed with just the kukhri. There are tales of them clearing German trenches in the dark and being trained to feel for the way a boot was laced before deciding what to do next.

I was fortunate enough to know a British Gurkha major (Peter Prentice OBE) for 16 years up until his death. He fought in French Indo China (now Vietnam) against the Japanese. I have the kukhri that his men gave him (officers don't generally carry one), a Japanese surrender sword and a Japanese prayer flag which he gave me. He also had two decorative kuks which were gifts from the Nepalese Royal family, but those were gifted to the British Gurkha museum along with father's Victoria Cross. That reminds me, I have his and his father's dress swords. He was a cantankerous old bar-steward, but I admired him a lot. you could tell he had been to hell and back. He said he managed to get hold of a Thompson sub-machine which was much more reliable in the jungle and more efficient at killing than the British Sten Gun. He had to be careful with ammunition as he could only get it from US troops where he bartered with British rations, especially coffee.

http://www.army.mod.uk/brigade_of_gurkhas/

THE FIRST WORLD WAR

At the outbreak of the First World War the whole of the Nepalese Army was placed at the disposal of the British Crown. Over 16,000 Nepalese troops were subsequently deployed on operations on the North West frontier and as garrison battalions in India to replace troops of the British Indian Army who had gone to fight overseas.

Some one hundred thousand Gurkhas enlisted in regiments of the Gurkha Brigade. They fought and died in France and Flanders, Mesopotamia, Persia, Egypt, Gallipoli, Palestine and Salonika. A battalion of the 8th Gurkhas greatly distinguished itself at Loos, fighting to the last, and in the words of the Indian Corps Commander, “found its Valhalla”. The 6th Gurkhas gained immortal fame at Gallipoli during the capture from the Turks of the feature later known as “Gurkha Bluff”. At Sari Bair they were the only troops in the whole campaign to reach and hold the crest line and look down on the Straits which was the ultimate objective. To quote from Field Marshal Sir William Slim’s introduction to the second volume of the 6th Gurkhas’ history:

“I first met the 6th Gurkha Rifles in 1915 in Gallipoli. There I was so struck by their bearing in one of the most desperate battles in history that I resolved, should the opportunity come, to try to serve with them. Four years later it came, and I spent many of the happiest, and from a military point of view the most valuable, years of my life in the Regiment”.

The original poster should be aware that the Gurkha Regiment was also deployed in the Falklands War.

Edited to add this which has me in tears of laughter!

http://www.himalayan-imports.com/gurkha.html Great history and pictures here too.

Once while His Highness was on annual holiday in England, far removed from political intrigues and palace coups, an uprising was attempted. British military headquarters, then stationed in Kuching, the capital of Sarawak, was alerted and quickly flew a company of Gurkhas the short distance up the coast. Landing at Brunei airport, the little brown men double-timed into Bruneitown and soon came in view of the rioters.

Forming a thin khaki line across the lone main street, they unsheathed their kukris and stood facing the howling mob. Looking at that silent row of men, their knives sparkling in the sun, the insurgents had some fast second thoughts and slowly began to disband. The troops smartly about-faced, trotted back to the airfield and flew home to Kuching. Elapsed time to crush a rebellion-under two hours.
 
Hi ig.

The three most common khukuri made during WWII seem to be the Mark II, M43, and "K45" (or Mark III). (Atlanta Cutlery was selling K45's.) In addition, many older military khukuri (such as Mark I's), many less common issue forms, and many private khukuri were carried in WWII.

Most of the items offered on eBay as WWII-issue items are meant to look like K45's (wooden slab handles fastened to full length, full-width tang with two large rivets and no bolster between the handle and blade), but they are replicas (to use a kind word), including several on sale now as "genuine WWII."

If you e-mail me your e-mail address, I can alert you to any real possibilities that appear on eBay. However, it is rare for a decent WWI OR WWII khukuri to go for as little as $100.00 on ebay, especially if it has good provenance.

Would the students appreciate the difference between a real K45 and an HI BAS (British Army Service)?
 
If you e-mail me your e-mail address, I can alert you to any real possibilities that appear on eBay. However, it is rare for a decent WWI OR WWII khukuri to go for as little as $100.00 on ebay, especially if it has good provenance.

Would the students appreciate the difference between a real K45 and an HI BAS (British Army Service)?

Thanks Thomas for replying. To be frank, the students wouldn't have the FAINTEST CLUE about the differences between the knives, but the thing is, I WOULD KNOW. I'm a living historian, and I really try to make a solid effort in portraying my impressions accurately (even in portraying a Gurkha for a lesson, I'm only 5'5 inches tall!) So my e-mail address is lcpldiminno@hotmail.com, if you do happen to see anything. I have been dialoging with a guy from the Khukuri House in Nepal, he seems to know his stuff pretty well, but sometimes you have to beware about these things, especially when someone might just be trying to make a buck.
 
I've double-checked my records and the WWII antiques offered at Atlanta Cutlery were $79. Unfortunately the WWII khukris are sold out.

They do still have two antique Khukri models remaining. Both are from the 1800s and were military relics recently obtained from a British armory in Nepal. The relic Khukris have military markings. The larger version is the Longleaf and is priced at $160 ($230 w/ scabbard). The smaller version is the Bhojpure and is $130 ($190 w/ scabbard).

These aren't WWII-specific, but they are genuine antique Khukris carried by Ghurka soldiers.

Enter "kukri" in the search bar at their website, www.atlantacutlery.com . You'll also see some new cheap Khukri-like objects, but the antiques are clearly identified.

-Bob
 
ig_corporal said:
To illustrate, during WWI and WWII, the Gurkhas fought for the British on almost all fronts. What was interesting is that really VERY FEW of them even knew what was going on in the world as far as the politics of the war were concerned...they just went and fought, well...because it was a fight and bravery is a very important personal characteristic to them!

Kinda off topic, but this reminds me of an article I read in one of the NRA publications a while back about Native Americans in the world wars. Here's one thing I found especially enticing- In WWI, the Iriquois Confederacy (or is it Iriquois Nation? I forget...) declared war on Germany, along with the US. They never made peace. To this day, the Iriquois are still officially at war with Germany. :D
 
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