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Recent hirschfänger acquisition

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I recently acquired this hirschfänger. I know very little about blades so I wanted to ask if anyone can tell if this is authentic or a reproduction. The approximate age, and any additional information on it. If it is authentic and 'old' is there a technique to clean it up, or is it best to keep the patina and rust on it. Thank you, and if there is a more appropriate way to include pictures please let me know.

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I was told by a sword dealer that old swords lose a lot of value if you clean them up, not sure why . . .
 
I am by no means an expert on these swords but everything about it looks correct to me. Also realistically they are not that popular and therefore seldom reproduced or faked.

With respect to cleaning just as you would not sand down an antique table or heavily clean an old pocket knife making an antique sword nice and shiny destroys it's history which is much of what you are paying for in an antique. In this case the value is probably fairly nominal to begin with.
 
Thank you for the replies. I will keep it as is then, I am less concerned with value. Is there anyway to estimate the age of this?
 
Welcome aboard.

There is cleaning, restoration and abuse. Think of it as one might an old firearm. There is nothing wrong in starting with a soft cloth and light oil. Before that, I would take a coin and get the flaky stuff off the blade. Keep working with cloth and oil until it is no longer staining a fresh cloth. Or.... :D

I am hesitant to share my own little shop of horrors :D Red rust will only get rustier. I hate fine steel wool, as it leaves a mess but to cut a heavy crust, that and oil busts the crusts. Alternately, Decorroders, which is less than ideal but work. Will leave steel gray unless polished out. Electrolysis, works gangbusters, can be easily overdone. Scrubbies, brass and bronze wool. Low abrasive polishes, once down past the crud. I use a variety of them. Noxon, slathered on a crusty blade and left overnight softens up the crust (oxalic acid-all Decorroders us an acid.) White vinegar with salt, soak. Cleaned brass does not need to be polished and darkens with time if so desired.

The cross hatched grip is unusual. Mid/late 19th century is my best guess but I would not be surprised to find out it is early 20th century. The angled grip may reflect later Prussian military swords (1889ish) See 1889 degen. That said, Prussian states or Bavaria.

If you are on Facebook, check in at https://www.facebook.com/groups/iascpost/ and drop a post there. Another forum to post to is http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=12 Both have more eyes and experience.

Here is one of my 'dry cleaning' results on brass, with just a worn out tooth brush. I would use a little lube even a water damp cloth while cleaning the grip.

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A big difference in actually seeing the chasing of the details

There are a number of cleaning and restoration articles. Just stick to basics.

Another group

Cheers
GC
 
Here is a hunting sword I posted here a few years ago that got some TLC.

 
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