Recent local home fire got me to thinking

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OK, I may have missed this in the past, but if you have lost some of your flock to a home fire but dig the blades out of the ashes, is there any salvage? Can Infi be re-heat treated? Total loss? I guess could they be reground? I have no experience with blade making.

Just wondering? Hope never to have to face this problem.

Doc

Sorry guys, didn't mean to mislead....not fire at my home, just in our town. My stable is fat and sassy!!
 
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Im sorry about the loss man, good part is that you are OK, knives can be redone, life cannot
 
Well since busse has an unconditional warranty, they should get replaced, but the insurance company, assuming you have insurance, should cover most if not all personal property damaged by a fire..
 
Would you really try and hold Busse responsible
to replace a collection of knives destroyed by a fire?
Even a single knife?
I think we all have insurance for those types of occasions
when some tragedy destroys some of our belongings.
When stupidity,inebriation or over zealousness causes a knife to be damaged,
well,thats why we buy Busse Combat's! :D
 
If you're really worried I'd check with your insurance agent to make sure you have enough coverage. I'd be more worried about where I was gonna sleep that night though!
 
Sorry,as to the original question
I think the heat treatment would be shot
and given the blades are still recognizable as knives
rather that molten blobs,
I dont think they would ever hold an edge again.
 
"Would you really try and hold Busse responsible
to replace a collection of knives destroyed by a fire?
Even a single knife?"

Sorry, my explaination may have been a little misunderstanding, I simply meant that once your insurance company gave you compensation for the knives, Busse would have no problems making you new knives even if the models had been discontinued. I wasnt saying that Busse would just give you free knives.
 
About 10 years ago, my cousin lost his house to a fire. He got the kids and wife out. A couple family photo albums. He lost 50 or more guns, custom bows, knives etc. His insurance paid full value for the house, and some other major stuff (one of his vehicle was a total loss as well).

But paid out pennies on the dollar for his guns, knives and bows etc.

The first thing he built for his new house was a fireproof, walk in safe. He basically built the rest of the house around that feature.

I am sorry to say, I do not have a fireproof safe. I really need to lay out some cash on a fireproof one.
 
Some fires do start from carelessness, intoxication or stupidity so it may be hard to know where exactly to draw the line. :p

Contrary to what we are led to believe by TV and other forms of dishonest distractions news, in my own quest to increase knowledge I learned that steel is pretty hard to melt. Having witnessed wood, paper, plastic, rubber, coal, diesel, jet fuel and many other things burn both in open air and inside steel/iron stoves/furnaces over the years and not once witnessing a meltdown, some home fire fears remain unfounded. That is unless one was stockpiling in their home flares, magnesium or a certain kind of thermite/thermate oops, I mean, "special diesel/jet fuel" from a batch about 10 years back :rolleyes: :barf:, I don't see how any building fire could melt steel into molten blobs. Facts typically trump fiction, so here are some facts from a quick googling. Temps for melting metals vs house fire temps

Was there not a mention on here at one point during one of the "overheating on a belt sander debates" of around 900* needed before INFI lost the heat treatment? The handles (especially res-c) and or sheath might be toast, but unless the blades were stored completely surrounded in really hot burning fuels with good airflow I would suspect a Busse would come through a fire better than most other items in the home. For much less than one insurance payment, ammo cans are highly recommended for storing your valuables in if you have no access to a good steel safe since without access to the air inside there can be no fire, which would require even more external heat to do damage to the contents inside. :thumbup:

Insurance is a good idea, but only if it will actually cover your loss how and when you need it to, otherwise it is truly a waste of money. So don't just presume or assume, but rather, make sure your policy applies to your specific needs. ;)

Most of all, be careful try to fireproof your home/land/valuables and stay safe! :cool:
 
i would assume to cover high end knives you would need to get a rider. i once had a renter policy that only covered up to 2k in guns.
 
I think it is safe to say that a house fire would easily exceed 900F, and while your knives won't melt, the temper will be destroyed.

The interesting question is whether such altered metal can be annealed to dead soft and run through the magic Busse HT process again to restore the steel's properties.
 
good point aztimt and resinguy, maybe one of the firemen that frequent the board can tell us how hot the average house fire gets.

but with a phonecall and explanation to Busse, I would imagine (from my experiences with their customer support) that they would do everything they could to help you out.
 
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