Recent Lube Discoveries

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Those who know me and have been following my posts (on this and a different forum) for a year or so know that I'm on sort of a "mission" evaluating lubricants/rust-protectors and have read my experiments with them. It's just something I've been obsessed with for a while for my own knife and gun needs and I've been sharing from time to time.

Just a little update:

I've discovered (over time) that plastic handled (Zyetel or Spyderco nylon, etc.) knives have different needs than knives that have metal handles or liners. I CAN use the same lubes for both, but metal-on-metal folders prefer different lubes than plastic-on-metal knives do.

My favorites for metal-on-metal knives; which are MOST knives - G10 or Micarta with liners or solid metal handles are BreakFree and RemOil in that order. There's only about a nickle's worth of difference between these oils on knives. On guns I've noticed that BreakFree is about one step above RemOil but I won't go into that here.

On plastic-handled knives I've concluded that Buck White Lightening is the best thing hands-down! On knives such as Spydercos with nylon handles, Cold Steel Voyagers, and SOG Autoclips where Metal rubs on plastic I can't find anything better than White Lightening with it's waxy persistant (it stays in place) lubricant for these plastic-on-metal knives.

White Lightning, from my personal expreriments, is a poor rust preventative. It also has a "thickness" that hinders the smoothness and provides considerable resistance on linerlocks and Axis locks where otherwise a quick push will enable to blade to fly all the way open. In these cases White Lightening, I've found, has a build-up that prevents the free-flying of parts of linerlock and Axis lock knives that would normally have very little resistance. For these knives I recommend BreakFree or RemOil.

On the other hand, plastic handled knives don't really lend themselves to easy flicking or push-opening of the blade. Plastic-handled knives usually require the thumb to be on the opening hole or stud throughout the opening motion so White Lightening's "thickness" is never noticed but it's smoothness is definately noticed.

Try me. If you're using White Lightning on ALL your knives then STOP. Use BreakFree on the metal-on-metal ones and see. But most of all, try White Lightening on only your plastic-on-metal knives for a while and see if you like it better than what you're using. It's got a waxy base that I think works much better with synthetic materials acting against metal.


One more observation:
The BreakFree bottles and cans are messy and inconvenient!
If you have to travel with a lubricant it should DEFINATELY be with RemOil with it's small, neat and tightly-closing bottle.
 
I am kind of partial to Sentry Soulutions Tuff Glide used in the Tuff cloth for my knives. I use White Lightning on the plier pivots of my Leatherman, it helps prevent grit from buliding up there.

White lightning can be gotten at any bicycle shop. Tuff Glide and the Tuff cloth can be obtained through Cutlery Shoppe.
 
fulloflead,
have you tried\tested Tri-flo. It's a teflon based lube
I like it a lot works well for me.
 
I did a post some time ago about Whitelighting, this stuff was great on slipjoints, and lockbacks, but beware on linerlocks/framelocks, if you get the waxy lubricant on the blade tang it can cause a lock failure, the only way to truly clean it is disassemble the knife and clean with a solvent.
 
Has anyone tried Boeshield? It's a wax lube similar to White Lightening, but uses an oil suspension rather than water as is the case with WL. It doesn't allow rust as easily as WL and lubricates better IMO. I've used it on my bikes for years. It takes a truly long, wet ride to wash it off. I've never tried it on a knife though (cause Miltech or Remoil work well for me).

Chris
 
Originally posted by NFMee
fulloflead:

where can I get

BreakFree?

RemOil?

White Lightning?

thanks.

Gun shop.
Gun shop.
Gun show. White Lightening is hard to find. When I got it I bought it in a blister pack that was a kit with a bunch of other WL products for $10. I really love the WL spray cleaner that comes in the pack. It's like carborator cleaner for your knives except not so harsh. The polishing stuff I've never used.

I haven't tested any of the stuff other people mentioned but I can tell you that Hoppes gun oil and ProLix and Sheath aren't worth a darn. I forget what else I tested.
 
I have been testing Ballistol and Militec recently. I will write a mini review when I am done my trials. I still want to get my hands on some Tuf Glide to test the other two against. I found this yoyo lube made by Yomega that supposedly had petroleum jelly and Teflon in it. It worked very well for bearings and it would have worked very well on knives. Have you had any experience with these lubes tested against against the ones you are using now? Have you investigated into issues of toxicity and it's effect to humans in contact with it? That has become a concern for me. I would imagine prolonged contact while handling knives with some of these lubes on them would be an issue with some people.
 
Originally posted by shmoopiebear
I have been testing Ballistol and Militec recently. I will write a mini review when I am done my trials. I still want to get my hands on some Tuf Glide to test the other two against. I found this yoyo lube made by Yomega that supposedly had petroleum jelly and Teflon in it. It worked very well for bearings and it would have worked very well on knives. Have you had any experience with these lubes tested against against the ones you are using now? Have you investigated into issues of toxicity and it's effect to humans in contact with it? That has become a concern for me. I would imagine prolonged contact while handling knives with some of these lubes on them would be an issue with some people.

Those are good questions I can't answer. In fact one of the reasons I prefer BreakFree over RemOil is that I think I'm allergic to RemOil. When ever I get more than a couple drops on me I get wheezy.
 
Fulloflead, as a Dept. armorer, over the years I've tested most of the products out there and recently tested my favorites against FP-10.
George saw fit to post the results on the FP-10 website. I've used nothing else since on guns and knives.-------------------------

I received my sample bottle of FP-10 this week (thank you George) and conducted the following unscientific test. I selected an S&W 4566 that had been retired by a friend due to frame/slide galling. I carefully removed all previous lube with brake cleaner and placed it in a padded bench vise minus barrel, recoil spring and guide. It was placed in the vice at approximately a 70 degree angle and I used an RCBS trigger pull gauge to measure the effort required to start the slide upward from rest. With no lube the resistance was measured at 26 oz. I then lubed the slide rails with the following products and measured resistance: Break-Free CLP, Rem Oil, Tetra Oil and finally FP-10. I was careful to thoroughly clean the slide between tests with brake cleaner and was also careful to, as nearly as possible, apply equal amounts of each product. The results:

Slide dry/no lube 26 oz.
Break-Free CLP 24 oz.
Rem Oil 22 oz.
Tetra Oil 22 oz.
FP-10 18 oz.
Wow! what a difference!

Not a scientific test, by any means, but enough to convince me!
Great product George and you've got a convert. Thanks for the opportunity to test it.
Richard K
 
Richard K:

The idea to test that way and the results you have sghared with us here is great.

I for one appreciate your efforts in the determination of this and even more so your posting it for me to see.

Thanks'

Brownie
 
Fulloflead,

Great review! Have you used the Chris Reeve florinated grease in comparision to other lubes?

BTW, I agree about Breakfree, that is what I use the most of.
 
I have about a half bottle of white lightning, email me and it's your's for shipping cost. Also, I also found many oils to come in an inconvenient size. I first tried the GI LSA weapons oil bottle. The little twist top plastic ones. Like mustard. They work okay, but can get easily squishied. I got me a cool little thing, I refer to it as my 007 tactical oiling pen. I can't say enough good about this pen.
Cheap, heavy duty, high quality construction, cool operating mechanism and it works great.

PS:For you types that are "HardCore" This is a heavy duty aluminum pen shaped tool. Unscrew to reveal the metal "oiling spike" I think my kubotan friends will know what I am saying.

I got it at Lee Valley Tools. I have no connection to them, I only bought an oiling pen and was happy.

Oiling Pen
 
Fulloflead, I have found Militec-1 to be the best so far of what I've used. You can get a free sample, just send an email reqesting it from the "free sample" link on their website. To get the best results, make about three of four applications over about a month and apply heat (I use a hairdryer) to warn the area both directly before and after application. Let it sit overnight, and the next morning you will be amazed how smooth it is. Just don't use too much, it doesn't take over a drop on each side.
 
Originally posted by ROM831
Fulloflead, I have found Militec-1 to be the best so far of what I've used. You can get a free sample, just send an email reqesting it from the "free sample" link on their website. To get the best results, make about three of four applications over about a month and apply heat (I use a hairdryer) to warn the area both directly before and after application. Let it sit overnight, and the next morning you will be amazed how smooth it is. Just don't use too much, it doesn't take over a drop on each side.

I've shyed away from that one because of the heating and all that nonsense. I'm not inclined to actually DO all that so...
 
Originally posted by Ironman
I got me a cool little thing, I refer to it as my 007 tactical oiling pen. I can't say enough good about this pen.
Cheap, heavy duty, high quality construction, cool operating mechanism and it works great.Oiling Pen

Got the same pen, it's part of my knife maintenance kit, I keep it filled with a 50/50 mix of 3in1 oil and kerosene.

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I have WL, Boeshield and Rock & Roll on my bike workbench, so I'll have to give them a shot. I've already tried Tri-Flow on my Blink with good results (spray on, let sit, then wipe off all visible traces).
 
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