Recent Spitfires?

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Has anyone tried a recent Spitfire (or the Walmart Slimline) and if so, have they gotten rid of the vertical play issues?

The first Spitfires (and Slimlines) had noticeable vertical play out of the box. I got one that was crazy sloppy.

I remain interested in the knife and am hoping that that Buck has tuned the production enough to eliminate the play.
 
I have a 2013 Spitfire (721) locks up solid. Been carrying off and on since September. I still prefer my Vantage Pro.
 
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Big W has its own version. These are both.
 
I was never a fan of the Slimline. As much as I love Buck, it felt like a "diet" knife.
 
My 2015 slimline is great, other than me always referring it as a spitfire.
 
Makael, which do you prefer in hand? I like the looks of the Spitfire better but suspect the Walmart Slimline is more hand filling, no?

How is the lock up on them?

BT93, how's the lock up?
 
I hope the lock up issue has been corrected....As stated above the one I bought was the worst lock up I ever saw on any new knife.....I am a BIG Buck fan, but I was amazed they let this model out of the factory the way the first ones were.....
 
I got curious yesterday and disassembled my 2013 Slimline to see it I could figure out what was allowing the excessive movement. Sorry, not enough posts yet for photos. The inside of the aluminum handles has a recess routed or milled into the pivot area to accept a stainless steel insert bushing. Turns out the tolerances between the insert and the milled groove are sloppy enough that the pivot and assembled blade easily move vertically. If Buck tightens the tolerances on the aluminum milling, I think the problem goes away.
 
PLB,

Is the bushing a single bushing that goes through the blade, or two separate bushings on either side of the blade.

If the latter, I wonder if seating the bushing in the frame with some JB Weld might be a DIY fix?
 
Pinnah,

There are 2 bushings , one in each handle. Good idea with the JB Weld - I have some leftover from a radiator repair and might give it a try. If the bushings were immobilized the play would be gone.
 
I have a spitfire from the first year they came out and never had an issue . I bought another 5 this past summer to commemorate an ual camping trip all engraved and perfect. My wife bought 5 in nov. 2015 for xmas presents all engraved and perfect. I bought a new one in december to replace my original because I snapped the tip misusing it. I do have a slimline also but i took the blade out of it and put it in my spitfire with the broken tip I prefer the spitfire handle.
 
I have 2 of the walmart versions -the 721, lockup maybe isn't as tight as a new 110 but I notice very very little movement. Like maybe 1/10 of a mm from the base of the blade to the handle. If that.
 
I've been looking at the Buck SpitFire (722) Folder for a while, and came across this chat today. The thread has been quiet since January, but wondering if there are any follow up thoughts on the introductory issue in the first post: "Has Buck gotten rid of the vertical play issues?"

And a second question, coming from the newbie level! The 722 I'm looking at has a straight blade. I also found the 722 model with the partially serrated edge. I noticed through this thread that both are pictured. What is the "difference" in use of the two blade edges? What are your preferences? So far all my folders have only a straight edge, and I've not had a serrated edge in an EDC. Wondering if it's useful or not to have? Thanks for your input.
 
After staring this thread, I purchased 2 more of the Walmart Slimlines (the Walmart versions of the Spitfire).

Both had a lot of vertical play, about as bad as any lock back I've ever handled. Vertical play doesn't bother people but bothers others. I'm in the latter camp, which may be because I work as an engineer and I have a hard time abiding things that don't work as intended and I'm pretty sure the vertical play isn't intended.

There is so much I really, really like about the Slimline and I say that as somebody who owns only traditional knives. It's very light, the blade shape is great, and it opens and closes one handed very easily.

I may get around to calling them to find out if this is something can be addressed.

In terms of serrations vs plain edge, here is my take. Perhaps others will chime in.

I think serrations make sense if you cut a lot of rope (or other fibrous material) and if you don't sharpen your knife often. Even when dull, the serrations can "saw" through rope or meat, just like the dull steak knife you encounter at your local restaurant. I find serrations do a poor job of working with and carving wood.

I think plain edges work and carve wood better and do a better job slicing through things like fruit or cardboard instead of tearing through them like serrations do. But, plain edges require on-going sharpening to keep them performing well.

Welcome to the world of knives! My recommendation is to learn to sharpen. I found a guided rod system (like Lansky) helped me develop my sharpening skills on bench stones.

Hope this helps.
 
Yes, pinnah, quite helpful on all points I had -- especially your suggestions on blade sharpening.:thumbup: And I'll be on the lookout for other comments...

"Learn to sharpen" is definitely what I need to do. Recently got a Victorinox sharpener, hand-held model, commercial grade. It's a "starter" sharpener for me, and I'll work on my oldies first, and maybe some pretty dull kitchen cutlery. I understand that this type of sharpener will "peel away" metal, which is not the best sharpening result. I've looked at a Lansky Four Rod Turn Box sharpener, and also a Lansky Universal Kit. Plan to go with one of those someday soon. There is very much to learn about the many different aspects of knives!

Mostly I appreciate your "Welcome to the world of knives!" It is a most enjoyable adventure, and a new part/hobby of my retirement years. I'm glad to have the BF membership now....lots of great info here from very knowledgeable folk! Thanks again.

After staring this thread, I purchased 2 more of the Walmart Slimlines (the Walmart versions of the Spitfire).

Both had a lot of vertical play, about as bad as any lock back I've ever handled. Vertical play doesn't bother people but bothers others. I'm in the latter camp, which may be because I work as an engineer and I have a hard time abiding things that don't work as intended and I'm pretty sure the vertical play isn't intended.

There is so much I really, really like about the Slimline and I say that as somebody who owns only traditional knives. It's very light, the blade shape is great, and it opens and closes one handed very easily.

I may get around to calling them to find out if this is something can be addressed.

In terms of serrations vs plain edge, here is my take. Perhaps others will chime in.

I think serrations make sense if you cut a lot of rope (or other fibrous material) and if you don't sharpen your knife often. Even when dull, the serrations can "saw" through rope or meat, just like the dull steak knife you encounter at your local restaurant. I find serrations do a poor job of working with and carving wood.

I think plain edges work and carve wood better and do a better job slicing through things like fruit or cardboard instead of tearing through them like serrations do. But, plain edges require on-going sharpening to keep them performing well.

Welcome to the world of knives! My recommendation is to learn to sharpen. I found a guided rod system (like Lansky) helped me develop my sharpening skills on bench stones.

Hope this helps.
 
I've got an orange Spitfire with plain edge. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I love the Spitfire! It's just a great little knife. I don't remember how much vertical play the blade on my Spitfire had when I got it. I like to tinker, so I started playing with the screws almost right away. And I only played with the screws so it wasn't so easy to open. I wanted them a little tighter. I don't think it had too much vertical play when it got it, because I never noticed it. Honestly, I didn't really notice it until I read posts saying the early ones had vertical play. For me, it's all a moot point, because one day I got bored and took it completely apart. I've got the screws exactly where I want them when I put it back together. They're loose enough to allow me to flick it open, but tight enough that the vertical play is almost nonexistent. It's just so minuscule I never notice it unless I actually push the blade up. I highly recommend this little knife. I'm almost tempted to get the green and gray ones to complete the set. :p
 
Thanks for your "plus" comments, JayC. Always good to hear the positive things about a product.

My eye returns most of the time to the Spitfire with silver blade, gray handle. And the model has the plain-edge blade, too. As far as appearance, those two colors, or either one alongside black, are my favorite color combos. The more I've been reading on BF about this Buck, the more it appeals to me. I know that any produced tool can have issues. But I've also been reading about the Buck Company, and it sounds like their CS would support any customer that has something seriously wrong with a new Buck knife. That's about as important as making a good product.

I think it's a great idea that you do complete the set. It would be a great part of your knife collection. Take care.



I've got an orange Spitfire with plain edge. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I love the Spitfire! It's just a great little knife. I don't remember how much vertical play the blade on my Spitfire had when I got it. I like to tinker, so I started playing with the screws almost right away. And I only played with the screws so it wasn't so easy to open. I wanted them a little tighter. I don't think it had too much vertical play when it got it, because I never noticed it. Honestly, I didn't really notice it until I read posts saying the early ones had vertical play. For me, it's all a moot point, because one day I got bored and took it completely apart. I've got the screws exactly where I want them when I put it back together. They're loose enough to allow me to flick it open, but tight enough that the vertical play is almost nonexistent. It's just so minuscule I never notice it unless I actually push the blade up. I highly recommend this little knife. I'm almost tempted to get the green and gray ones to complete the set. :p
 
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