Recommendation for a 5" Chef's Knife?

AFAustin

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I tend to spend my BF time in the Traditionals and the Maintenance, Tinkering, & Embellishment forums, and am pretty ignorant when it comes to fine kitchen cutlery. But every now and again I like to muck around in the kitchen, and I find that I really am most comfortable with a shorter, wider knife.

I bought a cheap 5" chef's knife and the size suits me very well. I am now looking to upgrade to a better quality 5" chef's knife, and have found they are a little scarce. I know there are some utility knives that approach 5", but I want a wider (taller) blade, so I think I should stay with the chef's. I am hoping there may be some choices out there in the $40- to $70 range that might fill the bill.

I would really appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,

Andrew
 
Wustof is a reliable brand.

cheap durable and fairly easy to sharpen.

I myself have one, but prefer misono brand.
 
Thanks, HwangJino. I do see that Wusthof has a 5" chef's and I'll give it a look.

The Misonos are too rich for my blood, I'm afraid.

Andrew
 
if you're cool with carbon steel, i would have you consider a smaller all purpose japanese kitchen knife called a funayuki.

they're usually around 165mm, which isn't too far off from the length that you are looking for and there are some out there that are dirt cheap and have pretty decent steel on them.

http://www.hidatool.com/tosa-funayuki-all-purpose-knife-165mm-6-5?filter_name=funayuki

http://www.hidatool.com/tosa-funayuki-all-purpose-knife-120mm-4-75?filter_name=funayuki

http://www.japanwoodworker.com/category/13198/country-style-tosagata.aspx
 
I would highly recommend Henckels twin Pro S 6" chefs knife! About $100! Awesome knife!!
 
Joe Calton makes a nice one that is just above your budget. I have a couple of his kitchen knives and he does a great job on the heat treat. Here is a link to one that just sold in the knife makers sub-forum.
 
Hey Franzb, sorry to derail here, but do you have any info or experience with the Tosagata knives? Such as materials, construction, hardness, comparisons to Tosa and Tojiro, etc?
 
i have experience with both tojiro dp and tosagata style knives

tosa knives are:

as for the handles handles are ho wood (magnolia family) and plastic ferrule construction, cheap but can be easily replaced when they either break or just wanna rehandle them. replacement handles are sold on ebay for a few bucks. i dip my handles in mineral oil every few months, seems to work fine for me. i love the grip that i get from the naked ho wood. real grippy even when wet. seems to be quite water absorbent. dipping it in mineral oil helps the tang from rusting out. some japanese cooks even take out the handles when cleaning it, they take it out and leave the tang and handle to dry completely before putting it back on. since they're friction fit, it's really easy to do.

i think the steel they use is either white #3 or some form of yellow paper steel. those guys don't really say anything about the kind of steel that they use. as we all know, they're kurouchi. coated with a soft iron to protect the knife from rusting and whatever.

reactivity with certain foods, of course they're reactive. they're carbon. just as reactive as any of my carbon knives. the most reactive carbon knife i have is my left handed misono swedish steel hankotsu. as for the carbon steel that's used on tosa style knives, they're somewhere in between my suisin hc gyuto (thought to be sk4) and my misono swedish steel. so it's slightly more reactive than say maybe blue steel or even my vintage old hickory which is 1095.

as for the hardness, they're comparable to any of my japanese knives which is around 59-60rc. at least by feel from sharpening and use.

ease of sharpening, well, it's carbon. stupid easy to sharpen. really thin behind the edge, takes a great edge, feels really fine when sharpening, if i don't clean up my stones the stones end up getting rust spots, i get orange spots on my suehiro rika 5k if i don't rinse it off. doesn't happen much with my other carbons. i take it up to the suehiro rika 5k, i don't have anything higher than this that's got a grit rating. i have a few natural stones for honing and other stuff. it can't take a great edge from those. but with natural stones your mileage varies.

for edge holding, for home use, it does decently well. i'm used to having fresh edges all the time. with continuous daily use, it holds on to the edge for around a week or so. it's a pleasure to use as it's easy to sharpen and to cut with. i love the fact that the knife is really light and it doesn't take much force to make any cuts as it slices through food.

dirt cheap, gets sharp fast.

but then, since there are a lot of tosa knife makers out there, since tosa is a place and tosagata is literally translated as tosa style or tosa type.... your mileage may vary.

the ones i have are pretty good. bought mine on ebay. they're branded as ryouma. 20 something bucks plus shipping. pretty happy with them. i have two. lol.


btw, i'm left handed and it is righty biased. but it doesn't bother me much, if at all.
 
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I have both the Wusthof 5" and the 6", and I definitely prefer the 5" for cutting small vegetables.
It feels like I have more control. I recommend it.

Toshi
 
In your price range I would be looking at Victorinox/Forschner or F. Dick. There is a really nice one in the for sale by makers forum right now for a larger investment..
 
Thanks, gents. Still thinking about the Wusthof, and just took a look at the makers' forum---some beauties there but out of my price range, I'm afraid.

Andrew
 
I vote for the Wusthof also...If you can, demo some of the specific knives at a store. For me, the shape and length of the handle can really make a big difference. The right handle makes the knife feel like an extension of your arm. Maybe you'll find another brand in the same price range that has a handle that really fits you well. Good luck!
 
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