Recommendation for a self defense knife around $60.

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Hey everyone,

I have been a ccw holder in Nevada for over 2 years now. I would like to start carrying a self defense knife as a backup to my glock 19. By using the search feature I see that most people on this forum perfer spyderco over most other brands. I am really a noob reguarding knives but have been learning by the minutre reading all your old posts using the search feature. I don't know if a pe, se, or combo blade would be best for self defense. Also, which metal would be best to suit my situation and which grip... g10, frn, stainless. I would like a folder and blade length around 3 inches or so. I am trying to keep the price around $60 as well.

I have been browsing and have looked in to the crkt m16-12le. Is this a good self defense knife? Which would do you guys perfer?

Thanks in advance,
Steven
 
Grip preference is a highly subjective thing. In a Spyderco for a goood all around blade a Delica FRN (Fiber Reinforved Nylon) handle would be hard to beat. Priced right, very durable and great for utility, and a fantastic steel VG-10.

My preferences are for G-10 handles and no serrations at all on blades. Micarta is decent as well but not as grippy as the G10.
 
If you can find one for sale on the "secondary market" (due to your price-constraints), get yourself a Benchmade Mini-Griptilian.
 
steven03 said:
I have been browsing and have looked in to the crkt m16-12le.

Consider the fact that 99.99999% of the time you're going to be using it for something OTHER than self-defense and get something you like and can use for utility use. ANY knife can be used for defense in a pinch.

The CRKT M16 line is HUGELY popular for a reason. It's one of their best models. I'm mostly into high-end stuff now, but I have a CRKT M16.

Other than that, try:
Timberline knives, especially the WORTAC models
SOG Flash models & Autoclips
Buck
Used/old emersons on Ebay.
Spyderco Endura

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If it's *primarily* for self-defense, and you want to keep it at that price point, I'd suggest a good fixed blade. No fear of lock failure at a critical time.

However, if you're also going to be using it for general tasks, I like the full-sized Benchmade Griptilian.
 
Delica-They also make a trainer, so you can practice without killing yourself or your partner. Mike Janich used them in the spyderco MBC program-now defunct.. :mad: They're one of the original spyderco offerings, and still have a rabid following-there's a reason.
 
There are all kinds of excellent choices, but I think you're on the right track with Spyderco. Given your parameters I would suggest that you look at the Spyderco Native III. The blade shape is well suited to self-defense and it has one of the most comfortable (and secure) grips you can get in a folder.

The Delica would also do very well.

--Bob Q
 
Can't you pick up a mini-grip (maybe 2nd hand?) for $60?

I would go for a grip if I could, Spydies are good too.

I think I'm just in need of a Benchmade fix. :barf: :confused: :D
 
Given your price range a Spyderco Endura FRN or a Becker Neck Knife. And lots of practice with what ever knife that you choose.
 
If you like the CRKT M16, it's a decent knife for the money so go ahead and get it. I'd make sure to get the AUS 8 blade steel instead of the newer AUS 4 that's coming out.
 
Fixed blades are vastly superior to folders, especially when it comes to SD. I'd recommend a CRKT Polkowski/Kasper Companion with a custom Kydex sheath.

If you insist on getting a folder, get an Endura or try to find a used Benchmade AFCK or Emerson Commander.
 
I'd get the combo edge. The serrations are better for fibrous material like rope and cardboard and you've still got the plain edge for everything else. The Griptilian is a nice knife with a reliable axis lock and you should be able to find one for around $50-60.
 
Plain edge all the way.

In a small to medium-sized utility knife, usually both the plain and the serrated portion of the edge are too short to be of much use. If you are convinced that you want serrations (if you almost exclusively cut fibrous materials), go with a fully serrated blade.

In a defensive knife, serrations may snag up on clothing instead of cutting through them.
 
most important feature on an SD knife, imo, is HANDLE SHAPE. If its not something you can hold onto when the SHTF, you don't want to be carrying it. Thats why I easily chose the manix. Just hold one. You'll see right away that its got the best grip you could possibly ask for.
 
Get a Grip with plain edge and drop point blade.

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or CRKT M21-04 if its not too heavy/big
 
IMO, 90% of of what you need to consider in choosing a knife for self defense has already been covered in simply deciding to carry something. The best knife is the one you have. Plain edge vs serrated, tanto vs spearpoint vs hawkbill, lockback vs linerlock...it's all irrelevant if you don't have a knife. The simple choice to carry a knife is more important than the stabbyness of a spearpoint vs the tip strength of a tanto.

Now that that's taken care of, it's time to look at the knife itself.

As fulloflead mentioned, chances are you'll be using the knife far more often as a tool than a weapon (and hopefully, and possibly never as the latter). If you've never carried a knife before, I guarantee that in a week or so, you'll wonder how you ever got along without it. Thus, I would suggest a knife that works well as a tool, not just as a weapon.

Keeping inline with my philosphy that carrying a knife is more important than the actual knife you carry, there's a few things about the knife itself that are more important than the brand, steel, or what it looks like.

Accessability. You want a knife you can get at. If it's a folding knife, make sure it doesn't snag your pocket when you pull it out. Make sure it's not so big that you can't pull it out while you're sitting or kneeling. Make sure that its blade is easy to open. Tiny thumbstuds are bad. Slippery thumbstuds are bad. A knife where you have to reposition the knife or adjust your grip a lot to hold properly after opening is bad. A knife that can't be opened easily in both a regular or reverse grip is bad. Having a knife, but one that you can't get readied is bad. Trust me, I know from personal experience.

Familiarity. Whatever knife you choose, use it. If you carry a firearm, you know all about drawing and reloading drills. The same applies to pulling out a knife, and if it's a folding knife, opening it. The best way to get familiar with your knife is to use it. Got a bill in the mail? Use your knife. Loose string on your sock? Pull out the knife. Can't get the frigging plastic off your new Jr. Walker + Allstars CD? Use the knife. Pull it from your pocket, open it, and replace it while you're sitting around watching the TV (so long as it doesn't annoy the wife too much).

Reliability. A fixed blade is always going to be the most reliable. In NV, you can carry concealed a fixed blade. If you choose a folding knife, make sure the lock will hold up. Avoid linerlocks with thin liners and ones that require a secondary lock to be reliable (yes, I'm talking about the CRKT M16). Avoid any knife where opening and locking is complicated. Something tricky might become easy enough through repetition in controlled circumstances, but in a "hightened situation", don't count on it.




I don't carry a firearm (yet), but I do carry a knife specifically for self defense, in addition to my normal, utility-oriented knives. My main folder changes between an auto (Microtech LCC or Scarab, or Severtech), a balisong (Benchmade 42MC), or a regular manual folder (Benchmade 710HS). I also carry a serrated Spyderco as a secondary knife. All are quite large/long, I'm very familiar with all of them, but none would be the first knife I grabbed for if I needed to defend myself. That knife would be the tiny, slightly silly looking Spyderco SPOT I keep strapped to the front of my backpack. Only a 1 1/2" blade, but I know exactly where it is, I can have it in my hand in an extremely short time, and I don't have to worry about opening it or if the lock is going to fail, and I know that I'm not likely to drop it or have it taken from my grasp. I have far, far more confidence in the dinky little SPOT than I do in my biggest, baddest folding knife, and far, far more confidence in my ability to have it in my hand ready to use if I ever need to. Which I hope I never do.




As for the actual knife, in your price range, I'd reccomend looking into the various Spyderco lockback FRN knives, like the Delica, Endura, Natives, and Salts. They are all very easy to open (big ambidextrous thumb holes, and very easy to flick with inertia), and are extremely useful as a tool. The lockback is very reliable and stronger than most linerlocks. The best part, IMO, is that they're so thin and light, that you can carry 2 (one plain, one serrated. This would be my preference since I dislike combo edge knives). I keep my main knife in my right front pocket, and a Salt-series Spyderco IWB. I never notice it unless I need it. Half the time I forget it's even there, and it gets sent through the wash. And they're not so expensive that you're heartbroken if you somehow lose or break it.
 
Good post.

I have a Spyderco Scorpius and like it quite a lot. I use it as a dress folder, but it was designed for SD situations. Ver cool knife.
 
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