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I figured I would ask the experts as I'm more of a "modern" knife guy...any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'd like to get a trad with:
D2 or ATS-34
2-3 blades
smallish for pocket carry (3.5-4in OAL)
I prefer wood or composite scales, no bone
A decent whittled - preferably full flat grind blades...swedges are ok
Not super picky on blade shapes
$100ish price range (I am too much of a sissy to use a nice custom)
Nice fit/function

I've seen some nice AG Russell stuff but it's all Chinese...and something just doesn't feel right about that.

If I have unrealistic expectations feel free to tell me. Thanks!
 
When there should be ATS 34 or D2 as blade steel and two/three blades you should look at Queen Cutlery or Tuna Valley (also made by Queen).

(it´s pretty hard to get a Queen or Tuna Valley here in Germany so my experiences are all limited to bone handled knives, but you´d like to have wooden or synthetic handled knife)
 
Queen Cutlery Whittler in Zebra Wood or Bird's Eye Maple D2. Lot of their other knives in D2 are well worth a look at too. Off you go!
 
The Queen Whittler in Zebrawood seems to fit what you're looking for:

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http://www.gpknives.com/queenwhittlercz.html

ETA: willgoy beat me to it
 
Thanks for the help guys, looks perfect. Going to pull the trigger tonight unless I get any other ideas.
 
Check out Canal Street Cutlery (knivesshipfree.com carries a nice selection)
 
the d2 / ats34 kinda narrows it down to queen / tuna, may i ask why youre set on only those two steels? No arrogance in my post, just curious.
 
the d2 / ats34 kinda narrows it down to queen / tuna, may i ask why youre set on only those two steels? No arrogance in my post, just curious.

Zero offense taken. I like a good patina on trads and, in my personal experience, I can get both of these steels insanely sharp... usually while outperforming other high carbon options, with less risk of rust.

I definitely considered the Stockman as well...but went w the Queen Zebrawood Whittler for $70 shipped. I'm really looking forward to getting it.
 
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Good deal on that Zeb Whittler, it's a very tidy (and a bit overlooked) pattern. Should be a pocket-gem once sharpened.

Regards, W
 
Hey guys. I wanted to post a review in the event another Trad newbie comes along. Aside from a Rough Rider that I enjoyed, but quickly gave away, I haven't had a non-locking knife since 1993. I got my first in 1984 but I was a little kid and had no perception of quality on the Old Timers, Case, Boker, Kissing Crane, and Buck knives I broke or lost. I'm glad I don't recall which ones I owned. Many were antique gifts and likely valuable.

On to the Queen D2 Birdseye Maple Split-back Whittler. I want to preface this that I am NO EXPERT. If anything I say is unfairly critical or asinine, by all means realign my expectations. Secondly, this is a GREAT knife. Well worth the money and I got great service from a company called TSA Knives (I thought it was a reseller of confiscated airport secruity knives at first).

Here are pics, I may reference them but I don't have a paid membership, and hosting and managing hyperlinks from a tablet is a PITA, so sorry if you don't like Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/101091851@N06/sets/72157635322814370/

The blades all came sharp. I've read a bunch on trad's but I hope I get all the terms right. The Clip had a clean and even grind, toothy, but a bit of a steep shoulder; the etched logo was centered and uniform. The nail nick had a little chip on the bottom edge. The Pen blade was flexible as I would expect from a whittler and very sharp with a well-suited and even grind angle. The Coping blade came with a tiny bit of burnt tip, a convex-ish grind, and a tiny bit of edge waver in the lower section of grind...it had some micro chipping that I only saw under the right lighting. That said, it was perfectly straight with a perfectly acute point...the best of it's type I have owned. I did some cutting on local assorted Texas hard/dense woods and all blades performed well. After 3 minutes on the ol' paper wheels every blade is shavin' sharp! The choils are deep, clean, and offer plenty of room to work the edge without tang contact.

When closed, the back springs are nice with minimal lateral edges you can feel. Only a tiny amount of light shows through one liner, and expectedly, at the tip of the spring splitting liner. When the Clip and Pen are open, the springs protrude a tad (see pics); however the fit of the open Coping is perfect. I can see hand fit peening on the Kick and grinding on the Tang of the Clip. I'm certain someone spent time trying to make this knife function well. In the good ol' USA. Love it. This is my first split-back...all of the springs are perfectly tensioned for me...zero hassle to open, safe to close, and no sense of safety issues so-long-as you know the designs limitations. The double spring on the main blade may be super old in design, but it's new to me, and I think it's genius. The blades are perfectly centered with no rubbing.

The bolsters were mirror polished. One had a tiny ding in it that probably couldn't be polished out.

Scale to bolster fit is PERFECT. The shield is flush and well-fitting. The scale pins have a tiny bit of tacticle edge/texture on one side, but its only from one direction and might've not been finished from the other direction. The maker's mark is really clean, detailed, and deep.

Simply put...this knife cost me $70. I'd have paid more. It's made in America, by craftsmen who still show up to make a 100 year old product. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants a non-custom knife to drop in their pocket, cherish, and use til the blades wear out. That's the future of mine.
 
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The 'green/grey' color description of the scales surprises me. I don't have any of the Queen zebrawood knives, but this color description sounds more like the Bird's Eye Maple knives from Queen (I do have one of those).

This is one of your pics linked from the site you referenced. Those 'spots' seen on the scales here look an awful lot like the characteristic spots that give Bird's Eye Maple it's name. Not to alarm, but if you wanted the zebrawood, you might want to verify the dealer sent you the right one. All of the pics I've seen of the zebrawood have shown a rich brown/coffee/caramel color to them. Either way, it looks like you have a good-looking knife. If you're happy with this one, no worries at all.

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Compare to this Birdseye Maple 'Mountain Man' folder from Queen (vendor pic found on web):
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David
 
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I think you're right. The box says #48 BEM. And frankly I like the one I got more than the red color. Win win.
 
I think you're right. The box says #48 BEM. And frankly I like the one I got more than the red color. Win win.

That's it then. The 'BEM' suffix is how Queen catalogs this series. You've got a very nice example of one of those, so it looks like you did well. :thumbup:


David
 
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that's a lovely looking knife. The split-back whittlers are especially hard to get right. I really like the look of the queen knives, and if that knife is indicative of their present standard of fit and finish under new ownership, then I need to pick up a couple.
 
I'm glad you're pleased, Queen often put out a really fine knife, when you get one you won't want to part with it!

fatcorgi, I'd advise you to get one of these or the Zeb and Bone versions.

Thanks, Will
 
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