Recon 1 release pressure?

sqoon

sqoon

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While I gave up on Cold Steel Knives a few years ago and swore I would never buy one again, I've been giving the spear point Recon 1 a good hard look. However, the one thing giving me second thoughts about it (my overall disdain for the company aside) is the amount of pressure needed to release the lock. While most lock back knives I have used like the Delica, Endura, Buck 110, 112, Gerber, etc. require a moderate amount of pressure to disengage the lock, Tri-Ad knives that I have used seem to require that you press the lock down 100% of the way. While the Tri-Ad lock is a big selling point for me, as is the lock strength, I don't like the idea of having to wrestle with a knife in order to close it one handed.

For those who have used this, or similar knives with the Tri-Ad lock, my question is whether or not the lock breaks in over time, requiring less pressure as you go? Can the knife be disassembled and have a bit of steel taken off either the tang or the lock bar in order to cut down on the amount of force needed to disengage it from the blade without compromising too much on strength?
 
the very nature of the tri ad demands a rather forceful closing. their is a break in period, as mentioned. i consider a slightly harder then normal closing pressure a small tradeoff for what the tri ad offers.
 
Brother Sqoon, I think you will soon become accustomed to the stiff back lock. Its one of those things where at first you say "this is a lot stiffer than my Delica", but soon it just becomes second nature to you. Additionally, my Recon 1 (clip point) is noticeably easier to disengage than are the Lawman. So the Recon 1 is really not that stiff, honestly.

No worries. Just proceed henceforth and enjoy.
 
jakeyjake4528 said:
the very nature of the tri ad demands a rather forceful closing. their is a break in period, as mentioned. i consider a slightly harder then normal closing pressure a small tradeoff for what the tri ad offers.
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What part of the triad lock makes the deep press necessary?
 
Its probably a combo of the lockup surface (between the back lock and blade) being pretty long, as well as where the back lock's fulcrum is situated. Graphic. Conversely, I may have no idea what I'm talking about. :)
 
kreole said:
What part of the triad lock makes the deep press necessary?
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The nib on the Triad that locks the blade open is very deep, necessitating a deeper press to release it. The reason it must travel far is that it has to wedge itself between the tang notch and the back of the stop pin. A regular back lock only has to engage the tang notch. It all becomes clear when you study a diagram of the Triad lock. The long press is a price one pays for the great strength and reliability of this lock design.
 
powernoodle said:
Brother Sqoon, I think you will soon become accustomed to the stiff back lock. Its one of those things where at first you say "this is a lot stiffer than my Delica", but soon it just becomes second nature to you. Additionally, my Recon 1 (clip point) is noticeably easier to disengage than are the Lawman. So the Recon 1 is really not that stiff, honestly.

No worries. Just proceed henceforth and enjoy.
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Aside from some random knives at their parking lot sale, my friend's Lawman was my only point of comparison. I figured the Recon would be identical. Good to know that is not the case.

I actually placed an order for the Recon 1 a few hours ago. I then spent some time disassembling and cleaning up an old favorite of mine, which prompted me to cancel my order. The Recon 1 will stay on my wishlist, but I think I'm going to hold off for now.

Thanks for the feedback, guys!
 
I have had a Spartan, 2 Lawman's, and have handled a Recon 1 Clip point. The Recon 1 was the easiest to unlock out the box. The hardest by far was the Spartan, which I used to have to use the edge of a hard object like a table to get teh leverage to unlock, even after 1.5 years, it is still hard to unlock, but I can do it with a thumb now. My friends still need help to unlock it though, so maybe my hands just got stronger lol. My first Lawman had steel liners, and was very difficult to unlock at first, but broke in a lot more than the Spartan did. My second Lawman was linerless, and the lock was not difficult to operate at all right out of the box. It got a little smoother with time as well.
 
sqoon said:
Aside from some random knives at their parking lot sale, my friend's Lawman was my only point of comparison. I figured the Recon would be identical. Good to know that is not the case.

I actually placed an order for the Recon 1 a few hours ago. I then spent some time disassembling and cleaning up an old favorite of mine, which prompted me to cancel my order. The Recon 1 will stay on my wishlist, but I think I'm going to hold off for now.

Thanks for the feedback, guys!
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(OK but just to answer your question)
Yes, about a 3 week period of use and they break in.
 
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