Recon 1 salt water knife

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Recently I was looking at Spyderco's salt series, last time I owned one they were about 60 new and now are north of 80 and around 100 for the black blades.

This got me thinking, why can't I use my DalC coated linerless Recon 2 as a salt/dive knife. I mean what's there to rust on this knife, I can't think of any.
 
I don't know about later versions, but my AUS-8 also had the back where the lock rides as it opens uncoated as well, and while coating does help, it doesn't 100% protect the blade. Though, I'm sure it would do fine as a freshwater knife and as a salt water knife if you rinsed it after use.
 
OP, sorry but DLC does not stop rust, it helps to a degree with corrosion but it is not like a cerakote or paint type coating. It's bonded on a molecular level, it will still rust in salt water 100%. If you apply maintenance after every dive then yeah it'll be fine, but you can't just treat it like a SALT knife. Otherwise there would be no SALT knives, spyderco would just DLC coat all the famous super steels and there would be no need for H1 or LC200N.
 
blade between liners pivot and such would rust badly. especially aus8 version. hard to clean without disassembly. i can get massive rust spotting just from the humdity in the air here where i am. not a great stainless for water at all.
 
Looking at the internal parts they are all coated with something black. I think a quick rinse after salt water use will be fine. Going to try it this summer.
 
The Recon1 is easily my favorite knife and I own 4. I think you're missing out on an excuse to buy a Spyderco Salt knife. Just saying anytime I can justify buying a new knife I pounce!
 
Maybe Cold Steel is missing out? I would snap up a Salt style Recon 1 in LC200N. R1s are already linerless so making the whole knife corrosion free is a easier than most folders. I wonder if CS even reads this forum?
 
mastiffhound said:
Maybe Cold Steel is missing out? I would snap up a Salt style Recon 1 in LC200N. R1s are already linerless so making the whole knife corrosion free is a easier than most folders. I wonder if CS even reads this forum?
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I think CS left this forums a while ago because of the toxicity of BF in general. I remembered the rep tried posting on General Discussions and was flamed and ridiculed by the general passive-aggressive snarky people you see around there. They are generally more active on instagram nowadays. I've talked to them a few times via DM and the person managing their IG accounts seems nice and is willing to provide good informations.

For a folding knife to be corrosion free, they probably need to implement LC200N or other rust free steel not just on the blade, but also other components of the knife, including the stop pins, the lock bar, the lock spring and the clip. Even the hardwares are susceptible to rust. Any part that's rusted can affect the functioning & the tolerance of the knife. For example, the rusted lock bar may get stuck so the knife won't engage or close properly. I think it'll be pretty expensive to make the whole knife rust proof, i wonder if there's a big enough market to make this a worthwhile exercise..
 
hkyew said:
I think CS left this forums a while ago because of the toxicity of BF in general. I remembered the rep tried posting on General Discussions and was flamed and ridiculed by the general passive-aggressive snarky people you see around there. They are generally more active on instagram nowadays. I've talked to them a few times via DM and the person managing their IG accounts seems nice and is willing to provide good informations.

For a folding knife to be corrosion free, they probably need to implement LC200N or other rust free steel not just on the blade, but also other components of the knife, including the stop pins, the lock bar, the lock spring and the clip. Even the hardwares are susceptible to rust. Any part that's rusted can affect the functioning & the tolerance of the knife. For example, the rusted lock bar may get stuck so the knife won't engage or close properly. I think it'll be pretty expensive to make the whole knife rust proof, i wonder if there's a big enough market to make this a worthwhile exercise..
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Spyderco seems to do just fine? The price stays down too, even though the Salt knives are made in Japan which is a more expensive place to produce knives from than Taiwan (going on what Sal and other companies Reps have said). The G10 handle could stay the same, but yes the hardware would have to change (I already knew that, it's why I mentioned the whole liner less thing). They could try it with one knife and see how it goes.

Spyderco has been doing it for a long time without much competition, maybe CS could take a chunk? Hell, I'm still hoping for a Wharnie or hawkbill Recon 1 or something in a similar size. I take all the variety I can get!
 
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