Reconditioning a worn edge (with micrographs!)

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Have been carrying the Jarvenpaa puukko from the WB videos since I made them, without any further maintenance - about a month and a half now. Have done an overnight backpacking trip as well as daily use since then, much of the wear on the blade is likely from cutting my daily apple and not wiping the blade completely dry, so tarnished as well as worn. many boxes, small pieces of wood, I can't remember all of it...Still, some of the edge wear is fairly nasty. The blade couldn't cut paper cleanly, wasn't three finger sticky, and could only shave arm hair when it snagged some. Due to the Scandi grind at about 24 degrees, it was still cutting reasonably well for a dull knife. One thing that I thought was exceptionally interesting is the second wear image at 1000x. To the unaided eye it just looked like it was throwing back a small glint of light - up close you can see what looks like the edge fractured or flaked off and the grind pattern just sort of stops at a worn ledge. This knife holds an edge very well, better than my other carbon steel knives for the most part, so I don't believe there's any issues with the steel and it wasn't exemplary of the edge as a whole - must've hit something that didn't agree with it. An awful lot happens over a month and a half.

In the only 400x pic, the red blob out of focus upper right is a spec of red toner - 5u average size, a bit smaller than a single red blood cell. Gives an additional feel for how short the depth of field is at this magnification.

Anyway, about 40 passes on the WB, stopping half way in to apply a second hit of compound, and another 10 or so on two sheets of plain paper - back to scary sharp. Wait for it..."CLEAN UP YOUR EDGE!"

First two pics at 1000x before reconditioning.

First one looking rough:

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And looking real rough:

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Now at 400x after getting worked on:

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And at 1000x - totally unrecognizable, thank goodness! That knife was in embarrassing shape but made for a good experiment/QC - back to three finger sticky tree-topping in about one tenth the time it took to catch the pics.

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Won't update the listing till Friday, but some WBs are starting to escape my workbench already, feel free to contact me with any questions or comments.

HH
 
That second 1000x pic is amazing. At that level of magnification, the edge looks blunt: utterly flattened. It's amazing what the Washboard can do with just the compound. I'm loving mine!

- Tim
 
That second 1000x pic is amazing. At that level of magnification, the edge looks blunt: utterly flattened. It's amazing what the Washboard can do with just the compound. I'm loving mine!

- Tim


The worst damage was right along the belly, most of the edge looked more like the first pic - beat up but not broken or folded. I had some more nice ones at 400x but didn't save them properly when I applied the scale mark, lost for good. There was another very similar to the second pic but you could actually see where something hard had scored the steel at a shallow angle to the cutting edge, almost as if something hard was embedded into whatever I was cutting. After maybe a half dozen microns of travel the edge was just broken off under the score line. Pretty sure something similar happened to the region in the second pic, might even be part of the same incident.

Am real glad to hear its working well for you! :) I wouldn't part with mine for any other sharpening tool out there.

Martin
 
Finally found some time to post! Yay!

That you say you can get tree topping sharp from your washboard makes me think that I really need to step my stropping up a notch. Actually, I haven't been stropping because I wanted to challenge myself to have a carry ready edge with just a stone and copy paper. (I feel said challenge has made me a better sharpener.)

Anyway, superb job as always!
 
Finally found some time to post! Yay!

That you say you can get tree topping sharp from your washboard makes me think that I really need to step my stropping up a notch. Actually, I haven't been stropping because I wanted to challenge myself to have a carry ready edge with just a stone and copy paper. (I feel said challenge has made me a better sharpener.)

Anyway, superb job as always!

Well, the WB is not a normal strop, more of a "paper hone", but like a strop, raises only a small burr or none at all while removing larger amounts of steel at a stable angle, than most strops. Here are some more micrographs from a much older thread showing what I can get from a regular Norton silicon carbide stone - pics at 160x and 640x. So you get a very nice edge using just a stone and copy paper (and a little oil). Have mentioned this method many times - I still keep a short piece of clean hacksaw blade with my SiC stones so I can whip up some "stropping compound" should I need a touch-up and not need to do any grinding to generate mud legitimately. In the pics below, I didn't even follow up with plain paper, which would have taken it up another small notch.

It was sharpened up to the fine side of a Norton Crystalon stone and deburred with the oil and swarf from the stone applied to newspaper (the best wayI know of to do a thorough deburring and not affect the grind structure). Test knife could shave arm hair and just dry shave facial stubble, though not clean to the skin. Could easily crosscut newspaper with a push cut, though sounded quite abrasive when doing so.

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Thanks for the pictures of progression and method.

If interested in a few more, there's a complete series in the sale thread linked to my signature - a few responses down from the top. Shows a full workup from 320 grit to scary sharp.

Martin
 
I've lurked your threads before along with bluntcut's many times. Also watched all the videos of how you've progressed to the washboard method and bluntcut's balanced strop. It's nice to see how different methods are between person to person from Jason(knifenut) to someone like yourself or bluntcut using cheaper/easier to acquire tools for similar if not same results.
 
Awesome pictures heavyhanded.

I really wish I could use those types of equipment at home.
 
Awesome pictures heavyhanded.

I really wish I could use those types of equipment at home.

I'd love to have it at home - I have to use it after hours at work. Might make an offer to the boss, as we seldom use it in the shop and could actually make better use of a lower power stereo microscope. As it is, we keep it off to the side wrapped in a dust cover. Every time I want to use it I have to drag out a welded steel table, hook it all up, shut down all the equipment close enough to effect it (sometimes cannot, and wind up with a slightly wavy look to the scratch patterns). At 1000x I have to drape a barrier down from the eyepieces - the act of breathing, even gently, sends the image in and out of focus.

Would love to have a SEM but there's a little step up in price...
 
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