Redesigned Manix lock?

PropThePolecat

PropThePolecat

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Hello

A fellow BF member, ankerson, did a test with a BM Griptilian and a Spyderco Manix 2, where they were put through some hard use tasks. In the end the Manix 2s lock fails, which ultimately resulted in the ballbearing lock being redesigned by Spyderco.

So how do i tell the difference between a Manix 2 with the old ballbearing lock, and the new redesigned improved lock?

Thanks.

Regards, Prop
 
The changes to the lock are nothing you could see. More like very minor tweaks. You'll be fine with any Manix you get. Keep in mind that this "testing" was done by one person and I am haven't heard of any other reports of the lock failing on any of the boards.
 
No need to worry about the lock, the testing was more on the extreme side and the knife went through more than most people would ever put their knives through in normal use.

I don't perform that kind of testing anymore because I learned what I wanted to learn about pushing folders beyond the norm and I can tell what a knife could do or not do under certain uses.

I perform more practical testing now as in my EDC series showing how well the knives perform under more normal use EDC type tasks. I think that shows the true value of the knives more than beating the heck out of them.
 
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rycen said:
The changes to the lock are nothing you could see. More like very minor tweaks. You'll be fine with any Manix you get. Keep in mind that this "testing" was done by one person and I am haven't heard of any other reports of the lock failing on any of the boards.
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This ^^^ is all correct. You can't tell the difference, at least not without some very closely-held information from Spyderco and probably precision measuring tools. And, as Jim says, it almost certainly will never matter.

PropThePolecat said:
Hello

A fellow BF member, ankerson, did a test with a BM Griptilian and a Spyderco Manix 2, where they were put through some hard use tasks. In the end the Manix 2s lock fails, which ultimately resulted in the ballbearing lock being redesigned by Spyderco.

So how do i tell the difference between a Manix 2 with the old ballbearing lock, and the new redesigned improved lock?

Thanks.

Regards, Prop
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"Redesigned" is a big overstatement. Apparently, the only thing changed was a tiny fraction of an inch of lock travel.
 
I was under the impression, that the changes we're more substantial. Not that it matters really, as dont use my knives the way it was shown in the video. ive never doubted the Manix 2's original ball-bearing lock in the first place.

I belive my wish, to know about the new lock, stems from a desire to own the latest and best. My fellow knife addicts must know, what im talking about.

Thanks for your replies.
 
PropThePolecat said:
I was under the impression, that the changes we're more substantial. Not that it matters really, as dont use my knives the way it was shown in the video. ive never doubted the Manix 2's original ball-bearing lock in the first place.

I belive my wish, to know about the new lock, stems from a desire to own the latest and best. My fellow knife addicts must know, what im talking about.

Thanks for your replies.
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Prop, your impression is correct. However, just because the changes made are small does not mean they are not substantial. ;)
 
RevDevil said:
Prop, your impression is correct. However, just because the changes made are small does not mean they are not substantial. ;)
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I should have written visually substantial ;)

By the way, hard to believe the Honey Badger in your avatar, is my avatars distant cousin :eek:
 
Correct me here, but from the video it seems it was less a problem with the lock and more an issue with the pivot screws backing out under stress. Of course, this is overall a lock-up problem but perhaps not pointed at the ball bearing lock itself performing inappropriately. Is this what happened and allowed the bearing more play than intended?

It seems a manufacturer might cure some pivot screw problem by using a locking screw, but this could increase cost and potentially create another problem (most locking screws I've seen are hollow in one section which would decrease strength all else being equal).



-raisins
 
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