reducing ones dependance on the grid

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One does not need to head into the woods and disappear to be off the grid. As much as we may want to, we may not be able to (some have daily medical needs, some may not be mobile enough, age is a factor etc) to leave the cesspool that is the city/town/village.

However we can REDUCE the amount that we depend on the grid.

How?

- backyard gardens, patio gardens, indoor gardens all reduce the need to BUY or DEPEND ON the local markets, where food is imported from god knows where, and grown under god knows what conditions. Seeds are cheap. 50 bucks of a variety of seeds will see you thru the year in veggies. A lot can be canned or dehyrated

- harvesting & storing rain water for watering gardens, plants. If you live in an area like the West Coast of BC, one can harvest and store thousands of liters of rainwater for flushing toilets if you are handy with rigging up a pump system and cistern.

- being self employed.
(in Canada at least) one can write off a large percentage of fuel, space in the home (office), tools and supplies when they do their yearly taxes. I have not paid income tax in 9 years, and I have filed a tax return every year. Why? i made less than the Provincial and Federal income limits before they start charging taxes. I also kept all my work related receipts and had an accountant (my Uncle, so it was free) crunch the numbers. In some years i even got a return of 200 - 700 bucks.

one can also use a Exchange of Labour for Barter system. I do this more and more and rely less and less on needing "money". I did house demolitions this year, in exchange for canned goods, dry goods, and fresh meat/dairy/veggies. I needed truck work done (that i could not do myself) , i found a mechanic that needed firewood. Equal trade, both parties happy.

I also advertised scrap metal removal. copper pipes, aluminum only. I saved all the scrap electrical wire, copper pipes, brass bits, aluminum and took them into the scrap metal yard to be weighed. $2000 in my pocket for less than two weeks easy work. On top of that i charged a pickup fee for coming and getting that scrap. That added up to be enough fuel for the truck 2 months.

- conserving electricity:
I added a inverter into the truck, so i can charge flashlight batts while driving. I traded a knife for a deep cycle marine battery, and run the computer off that with an inverter. I get several weeks of runtime before needing a charge, and the truck works just fine for charging it while driving. The freezer is full of 2liter pop bottles filled with water. This allows me to lower the temp of the fridge by a few degrees to save electricity. All lights are compact flourecsent or LED, and the place is small enough that one light lights it up nicely. Turned down the water heater, I wash clothes with cold water, and i dont use the dryer unless absolutely needed. A clothesline or drying rack is fine. Average electrical bill every month is about $10 - 12 < easily paid by returning empty cans i find everywhere.

- reducing eating out, movies, fast food, name brand items etc: I eat out maybe twice a year, why eat out and pay all that money, wheni can spend very little money or labour/barter and make my meals at home. They are healthier, very inexpensive, and i can freeze some for lean times. Movies are free on the internet or i can borrow from the library or friends, or trade DVD movies at the flea market. Shopping wise, i buy basics, not name brand, and i buy in bulk from suppliers, chinatown grocers, and family shops. Yearly grocery bill is less than $500, and i eat VERY well. Basics include barley, rice, oats, potato's, onions, carrots, flour etc etc. All in bulk. I can buy 30lbs of onions from chinatown for $6 compared to almost $40 at the grocery store.

Clothing wise,
i buy heavy duty well made clothing once. I have not shopped for clothes in over 8 years, except for a pair 5.11 pants, as i had a gift certificate for those. Same with boots, i bought a pair of CDN forces boots 10 years ago and i still have them. Resoling them was easy and fun, and cheap.

reducing ones bills: I got rid of the internet, cable tv along time ago. The library has free net, I can use my wireless sniffer on my home computer, for free, or i can trade cooking/housesitting for internet use at my friends places. I have no phone, no cell. A pay phone is 25 cents, and its on the corner. I make maybe 10 calls a month, if that. Those that need to reach me, use the email. I reduced the coverage on my truck insurance,and i drive less and bike more.


medical needs: I'm quite healthy and very fit, I have not needed a doctor or the ER for many years, except for the odd shoulder injury. In any case, I have a great doctor that accepts patients on a pay per visit basis, and she is very reasonable with the fees. For example she Xrayed and relocated my dislocated shoulder for $100. That included OTC pain meds and a followup. Any prescriptions i have needed have been name brand, but samples. This = free. Your medical region may be different, but its worth talking to doctors to see if you can do this.


So it can be very easy to REDUCE ones need of the grid. You can save thousands of dollars this way, and work less and be happier.

Although I still want to get get back to my mountain roots and go back to living in a cabin. I miss it.

post up your tips here
 
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i cant wait to have a garden when i think of how much i spend on just basic veggies and herbs it doesnt make sense to not have one, im glad you made this thread because ive been thinking a lot lately of when i get married in may how my wife and i can reduce our living costs because calgary is insane, also like bushy said keep your receipts for work related things as you can write off lots of tools and clothes if you work in construction in canada
 
There are many ways to do this as a paramedic in Georgia I am amazed at how some people live in 2010 , from only wood burning heat no electricity to living in tents completly of the grid . Off the grid to me also means no run ins with the police , which is where I see them on the job. I've read some great articles on the subject and it takens some thought,prep and work on the our part .
 
Thats a good list, there's some things there that I'd love to try to implement myself.
The only thing that I'm really doing right now is the garden thing, and its really impressive to see how much food you can produce in your own backyard. Not to mention how relaxing and satisfying it can be to tend to it.
 
Great post Bushman! This is where I really want to focus our efforts this year. Getting debt cut down, getting our garden started and maintained and doing more outdoors activities for entertainment vice movies and eating out. My wife isn't working now do to having to move and she lost her job. She was shocked when I added up how much we spent on eating out...we are now limiting those occasions and focusing that money on more productive areas.

I have a priortized list of projects that we plan to do, but once you get your systems efficient and properly managed, you can still enjoy some of the "civilized" aspect of life yet at a much reduced cost.

ROCK6
 
Also, don't forget the solar still. Speaking of stills, I'd love to make my own. I won't say what I will do with my still. On an entirely unrelated note, booze is always a great commodity and is worth its weight in booze.
 
Backyard chickens! You get eggs, meat, bug control and fertilizer for very little effort. You don't need much room either. We have 4 hens and a Rooster on less than a half acre. They even get along with the dogs.
 
Backyard chickens! You get eggs, meat, bug control and fertilizer for very little effort. You don't need much room either. We have 4 hens and a Rooster on less than a half acre. They even get along with the dogs.

I have a lot of chickens too. :thumbup:
 
Great post Bushman! This is where I really want to focus our efforts this year. Getting debt cut down, getting our garden started and maintained and doing more outdoors activities for entertainment vice movies and eating out. My wife isn't working now do to having to move and she lost her job. She was shocked when I added up how much we spent on eating out...we are now limiting those occasions and focusing that money on more productive areas.

I have a priortized list of projects that we plan to do, but once you get your systems efficient and properly managed, you can still enjoy some of the "civilized" aspect of life yet at a much reduced cost.

ROCK6

a couple of years ago i saved all my recipts from eating out. this is just from fast food, coffee shops, and family restarants. I spent, on me alone, over $3000 a year on that. coffee (plain ol joe) alone was over $1300 for the year.

it adds up so fast. :eek::foot:
 
a couple of years ago i saved all my recipts from eating out. this is just from fast food, coffee shops, and family restarants. I spent, on me alone, over $3000 a year on that. coffee (plain ol joe) alone was over $1300 for the year.

it adds up so fast. :eek::foot:

So does booze/smokes/pot :eek:
 
Not sure if this counts, but my family in Oregon owns a house that is a far past the city line. They have water rights to a small stream and get all their water from it. It tastes delicious -it comes from a close by spring. The house is heated entirely from a wood-stove. So there is no bill for heating. It only takes about five days work to saw and split a years worth of firewood -and there are plenty of trees around there. My mom has a garden that is about 30' by 40' with all kinds of good eats. No sprinkling system is absolutely needed (but we do use one to save labor-time). You can see elk and deer walking through our property frequently (right now we are doing logging, so we cant kill on the property legally, but the permit is over soon).

That covers meat, vegetables, fruit, carbs, water, shelter and warmth. We also have friendly neighbors who do the same.

All we need is a good ass to ride to town on with a trailer, and we are set:)... Shotgun!!:D
 
lets not forget FREECYCLING! urban dwellers throw out perfect ably usable or repairable stuff!
 
+1 on water harvesting & storage. Very big one!
Mark Twain said: 'Whiskey's for drinkin', water's for fightin' over...'

A few more:

Composting and mulching: Reuse newspaper and cardboard for weed suppression, instead of synthetics.
Seed-saving: Even tomato seeds. Cut up potatoes when sprouting and plant. Mixed seeds will offer great erosion control, quick crops, or weed suppressing.
Hydro-electric back-up: Areas with heavy rain flows can use as back-up.
Wind power: Many windmills going up here in the country, as well as solar panels. Sebastopol 15 min. away, is the solar capital. More here per square inch than anywhere else.
Animals: We use sheep to mow the lawns and vineyards. They act as mowers, fertilizers, weed pickers and food. Bermuda Grass curbed in one season without sprays. Chickens for eggs, etc.
Passive solar: not active, like solar panels. As in trombe walls, sky lights, clear storeys, greenhouses. Heat your pool water that is cycled through a south facing wall or driveway.
Swales: dug perpendicular to slopes to capture water, plants on the berm, no irrigation needed.
Small Scale Intensive: Start small and fill it up. Allows for espansion and has higher success rates than going large scale and having to fill.


Use of not just edibles in the garden but other usefuls: cordage plants, plants ideal for fire by friction, wood for staves, hollow stemmed species.

We also ferment and preserve: Beer, Pinot Noir wine, Sauvignon Blanc, apples, berries, hops, etc....
 
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