REKAT Carnivoure info

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Just rec. this in the mail. It is marked a second but can't tell why. Grinds look good and blade is striaght. It has a little hitch in the deployment and may just need a general cleaning. Has anyone taken one apart? Don't know about the rolling lock. I think that is what the lock is called. I get the tiniest bit of movement laterally, and none vertically. I notice when I pull the lock back and flick it open it is like lightening and you can't percieve the glitch when using the thumb studs. If anyone has taken one apart feel free to chime in. keepem sharp

PS looks kind of like the Timberline Wortac
 
well I know that they are not in business anymore (made, etc.). I believe, if I remember correctly these had allot of QC problems, but I have never owned one, but heard allot about them. I know the 1sks has had them for sale for a looonnng time. I never bought one after I talked to many who owned them and did not seem to be very happy with the money they spent. I really cannot comment much else on these since I never bought one, can anyone shed any light on this?
 
Welll I took it apart this p.m. and was a pretty simple process. I didn't get down to the rolling lock to do that as there is the most miniscule of an e-ring no one of the studs for it so I left it as is. Sprayed with canned air as many areas as I could. Cleaned everything around the pivot with isopropyl and then relubed everything with miltec. Put everything back together and voila. No more blade play whatsoever and lock up is as tight as a drum. A little smoother action now too. You can discern the bump but it isn't as rough feeling. The mil tec I guess.

The blade edge is getting pretty sharp but needs a bit more attention to the edge. It push and pulls cuts really easily now though. Shaves hair but just doesn't have that pop to the edge yet. Went back through some of the archives and really didn't find anything that I hadn't read before. The blade is marked as a second but no where does it say Carnivoure on it. Grip index is awesome on this. Sharply pointed serrations cut into the thumb ramps and along the back where the heel of the hand rests. Also has the finger groove cut out for gorilla grip on the bottom. Extremely secure feeling. Whats nice about the grooves is that the G10 scale material is a bit above the serration pattern so although you get a great grip it is by no means uncomfortable.

Thats about it for now. What it could use is a better clip and better thumb studs. The clip plain sucks with the set up they have on there and the thumb studs are pretty small and with the tension on the blade now it takes a bit to get the blade deployed. keepem sharp
 
REKAT was an interesting company. They had an active forum here, lots of participation, many exciting knife designs, -- and then they gave it all up. I can respect that, but it would have been even more interesting to see what REKAT would have been like with a little bit more development, a few more good employees, time in the business. They had a lot of potential.

Benchmade recently brought out Red Line knives with the rolling lock, the Model 10200 Ambush and Model 10210 Mini-Ambush.
 
Most of the problems that REKAT's knives had were with the Sifu (5.4 inch blade!)...The Carni rarely had reports of problems. To me, the Carni is alot like the Benchmade 710...(And I've owned quite a bunch of both).
 
Hey I don't know folks for the 35 bucks I spent on the knife it's turning out to be alright in my book. The edge is typical of any ATS34 knife I have owned. Screaming sharp now. Pull and push cuts with ease and pops hair off what is left of the hair on my left arm. Matter of fact it pops those second growth hairs way up in the air. Wierd ain't it. Kind of like when I am just leaving my neighborhood on my EG and I am getting on the throttle a bit. If you ain't into it you wouldn't understand. :D

I have to figure out something for the clip though. It moves around. Doesn't come loose as the right side pivot screw is teflon taped in so it won't back out. I guess it is no big deal but maybe a bit of loctite under the clip or in that little hole they have there for the clip. I have wanted a Carnie for awhile but rarely do you see the full size for sale. Mini's yes. Between this and my Dalton I have comming and the Tempests that are going back in for warranty repair I just may be set for a bit as for folding knives. Keepem sharp
 
I have a PIONEER II and my buddy had a Carnivor Cub. We also has to take our apart, clean, lube, epoxy some hardware. But since then, AWESOME. My P II is one tough brother! The tanto blade is stout, sharpens easily to a WICKED edge, and holds it for about a month of my normal use. I had lost a thumb stud, and REKAT got it out to me quickly for free.

Most importantly...The lock is AWESOME!!! I have the ultimate faith in this thing. If it wasnt so big (wide-body) it would be on my hip still to this day. BTW: I carried an new Pardue Axis Tanto for a while, until Fred @ Knifeoutlet hooked my up with a LOVELY MT Mini Socom Elite. So that should give you a feel for the quality in MY eyes.

DANGELO in Seattle

Formerly CT, and NYC, and San Diego NEXT!

God Bless the Men and Women of our armed forces.
 
Hey Blackwatch, thanks for the bargain man, much appreciated. Right now this is going to be living in my pocket till I get my MOD's back. I have a Dalton LTC comming this week but that may be a sock drawer knife. As close to a custom as I will probably ever get but you never know. I can't believe how sharp this knife is now. Dead nuts solid lock up and the tighter I torqued it down on the pivot the easier it became to deploy. Feels like a 710 I used to own when swinging the blade out. Passed my cutting test with flying colors also. The recurved portion of the blade just pulls the cut into whate ever it is you are cutting. Very powerful indeed. keepem sharp
 
I also have a Pioneer II that has been a beater camp knife for the last few years. It's endured quite a bit of abuse and still locks up perfectly with no blade play. The ATS34 keeps an edge for a long time and is easy to sharpen. It certainly is a tough, and heavy, knife and not one that I would EDC. The clp is the only thing that is strange in that it uses the pivot pin to hold it in place.
 
Longbow,

I believe I confused the situation. You and I spoke (unless I'm mistaken) about a different REKAT, before you got that one.
 
Yep my mistake. You have the mini carnivoure. The more I use this knife the more impressed I am with it. Holy crapola what a buzz saw. keepem sharp
 
I remember holding a Carnivore a few years ago and being very impressed by the handle, it seemed to fit my hand perfectly. Also seemed to have a darn nice blade for tactical style knives. Rekats seemed to have some very thin sharp edges. (which is a good thing in my book)

I've had six Rekats myself. Two Pioneers, one Pocket Hobbit, one Hobbit Warrior, and two Sifus. I regret getting rid of all of them except the Sifus- they sucked, one had a bent blade from the factory, and the other had a defective lock. After taking apart one of the defective Sifu's I wasn't all that impressed by the Rolling Lock mechanism. It seemed like it was engineered by NASA, but put together by Neanderthal. I found that I had alot more confidence in the old Lever Lock.

On the bright side though, it's pretty cool that Benchmade has gotten the Mechanism, refined it and really brought it to it's full potential.

I do wish Rekat were still around. (Perhaps with better QC and customer service)

Anyhoo, sounds like it'd be hard to spend a better $35 on a knife, congrats to ya on an awesome knife purchase.
 
I, too, wish REKAT were still around. Then, maybe, I wouldn't have traded off my Carnie Cub. I couldn't really bring myself to carry and use it, knowing I have no way of fixing it if the lock wore out. No convenient way, anyway. I just...didn't want to be sad about it wearing out, and was sorry to not carry it, so I decided a thing shouldn't have that much power over me, and traded it off.

I'm less sorry about allowing someone to enjoy it than I am about not carrying it.

I had a Pioneer II Tanto once, too, but ripped the clip off it on accident. Never could get it fixed and didn't like carrying it in a sheath. Got rid of that one too.

I guess if I could get a BM 710, I'd feel less sad about having no recurve blades....or a BM 41ss.
 
Runs With Scissors said:
On the bright side though, it's pretty cool that Benchmade has gotten the Mechanism, refined it and really brought it to it's full potential.
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I don't know about that. I have an Ambush, which is a nice, solid knife, and I like the Rolling Lock just fine; but that damn "InDrag System" drives me nuts. Too too TOO much detent, takes work to get the damn thing open. Seems to me the lawyers added the InDraft to make sure it wasnt' *too* easy to open. (Or, maybe, the Axis Lock engineering team saw the Rolling Lock as a threat ;{)
 
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