REKAT Cub v. Emerson CQC7 - Which One?

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faiello55

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I am considering purchasing one of these 2 knives for self-defense carry in my pocket. I will also do some light cutting with it, but it will be carried primarily for defense. I will get a 50/50 blade without any coatings on it. Which would you suggest and why? Please give me the good the bad and the ugly. Also, where is a good place, with good prices, to purchase on the web?
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Frank
 
self deffense is not a "good" primary reason for carrying a knife.

First consider in most knife vs other weapons (eg Al baseball bat, a big stick, pepper spray, a group of thugs, or a gun) the knife loses (well the holder of the knife loses) Also the use of a knife is considered assult with a deadly weapon.

If i was in a position were i could use a knife for deffense purposes such as the military, and for some odd reason i wanted a folder, i would get a bigger knife than the ones that you are considering, one was close to 4 in perhapse, and i would want one with a thick blade.

the knives that i would look at wouild be

REKAT Carnavore, Sifu
CRKT Lrg kasper
BM AFCK, 710

also consider that if you draw your knife you want the other guy to run so you dont have to actually use it, so try to find the scariest knife possible

good luck

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Thanks for the info, but I cannot legally carry larger than a 3" blade and these are the 2 knives that I have narrowed it down to. Any advice on these 2 blades would be appreciated.

Regards,
Frank
 
I really like my REKAT Carnivour Cub, but I don't believe they are available in "50/50" (combo-edge).

What do I like about my Carnivour Cub?
*The rolling-lock. (Its' strength).
*The way it feels in my hand. (The "heft").
*The shape of the handle & the fingergroove.
*The shape of the blade.
*The stonewashed ATS-34 steel.
*The black G-10 scales.
*The stainless liners.
*The adjustable opening/closing tension.
*The ability to dissasemble for complete cleaning.

For a good price, check-out http://www.onestopknifeshop.com/store/rekat-carnivore-cub.html

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[This message has been edited by glockman99 (edited 06-23-2001).]
 
Carny Cub!

I would try to find a blue one

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I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him.
-Mark Twain
 
Welcome to the forums! Glad to have you with us.

Have you actually held both of these knives? I have an old Benchmade version of the CQC7 which I think is a great knife, and would work just fine for self-defense. That is what it was designed for.

I held a Cub once and it was way too small for my hand. The cutout for my index finger pinched, and I could not get a comfortable grip on the knife.

Please don't misunderstand us -- we get a lot of new guys, many obviously very young, who come on strong with a combat wannabee attitude, and we can't encourage that. But there's a lot of legitimate ways to defend yourself and a knife is not necessarily illegal.

If this is what you want, do a little research as to what your jurisdiction allows, and what kinds of behavior it interdicts.

Where can you buy one? Our Bladeforums sponsor One Stop Knife Shop carries the CQC-7.

[This message has been edited by Esav Benyamin (edited 06-23-2001).]
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by faiello55:
I am considering purchasing one of these 2 knives for self-defense carry in my pocket. I will also do some light cutting with it, but it will be carried primarily for defense. I will get a 50/50 blade without any coatings on it. Which would you suggest and why? Please give me the good the bad and the ugly. Also, where is a good place, with good prices, to purchase on the web?
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Frank</font>
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Hi!

I'd go with the '7, but i'm very partial to Emerson knives
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I'd recommend to get the CQC-7 with the wave, don't know what a wave is then look here: http://www.emersonknives.com/ and check out the "Video vault" for a "Wave Demo".

It make the knife the fastest opening knife in the world, period, and that is without springs and their legal problems.

Get one!!
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[This message has been edited by 2Sharp (edited 06-24-2001).]
 
just a few personal thoughts - if ya get an emerson CQC7, get 1 w/out the chisel grind blade - they are (at least mine is) ground left handed, and worthless (almost) for utility - i would get something other than a tanto , they booth have other blade options i think, i would get the drop point (?) or whatever it is - and, to be honest, for that kinda $$ other knives are available - ie - a BM AFCK for $65 at www.newgraham.com , i much prefer my AFCK to either the emerson or the REKAT carny, and the cub is pretty small, personally, would rather have a CRKT crawford/kasper than either 1, and it costs 1/2 as much - just my .33 cents worth


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Frank,
I just bought an Emerson "Mini" CQC-7. Its a wonderful knife. A little "heftier"than I usually own, but nice. Its a solid, well made piece. Mine has the Tanto/plain black blade. I believe its called the chisel type. Blade a little under 3", and overall around 7" opened. It has a center thumb "wheel" for opening, from either Left or Right side, not the thumb studs. I buy "Mini's" basically. I like to clip them to my waist-band, inside my pants. I don't like carrying anything in my pockets, basically. Knife is a little "tight" when you get it, one drop of Lube oil takes care of that, and a nice sharp blade. I'm fairly new to collecting, but if I had a dangerous situation whereas I needed a knife, I would choose this Emerson.
 
I think that I would try the Gunting. I am starting to lose faith in Emersons. Even though I really like my mini-CQC7B, after 2 weeks of use, the liner is already starting to disengage with the slightest bit of pressure. I think that I am going to have to send it in....
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Matt
 
I really like the wave feature, but the tanto blade and chisel grind are very hard to adapt to everyday use. Excellent fit and finish though.I would rather have a "A" model waved, or a SIFU.
 
I'd go with the Cub. It's got a much more secure handle and a much better lock. The CQ's tanto isn't the best for most utility work either. If you can get a CQC waved it might be a tough call, otherwise there's no competition.

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I'd heartily second Esav's suggestion that you hold both knives -- sometimes one or the other feels much better to your particular hand.

Given Emerson's many reports of shakey liner locks, I personally would lean hard towards the Cub and its solid rolling lock.

Joe
 
One more vote for the rolling lock. Stronger, safer, and the edge is two-sided. There are too many QC control problems at Emerson to trust buying one over the web. Might have to send back 2 or 3 to get a "good one." From a quick glance at my favorite web merchants, I think 1SKS has a good price on the Cub, and on the CQC& also.

You might look for shootist16 on the forums, if not this one, then the Spyderco forum. He sells knives and often has good prices. Excellent service, and he's a great guy.

I know many folks hate it when other knives are suggested. Haven't done it before, but would suggest that 2 mighty good 3" -- well 3 1/8th inch in one case -- knives are the Spyderco Native and the CRKT large LUS. They are much better knives around sheeple than the larger, more tactical appearing knives. Both are medium sized knives with the ability to perform well in a self-defense situation, should that prove necessary. The Native is particularly flexible, IMO. Or, if there are any medium size left, last I knew, Smoky Mountain Knife Works had the CRKT Apache 2 for $20. Has to be one of the best barains out there. The large is too big for your needs, I fear.

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Bugs
 
Go for the Carnie Cub if for no other reason than the strength of its lock. This is not a shot at Emerson. I have simply seen too many liner locks from respected manufacturers fail for me to ever trust one in a tactical situation.

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Hi!

Just wanted to add that i've had all kind's of locks fail, even the rolling lock (which i really like)
I had a Sifu that failed even the lightest tap at the spine.
REKAT/Bob Brothers fixed without question in a very speedy manner, solid after that.

Bad locks are to be found in (almost) every manufacturer, some more then others.

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Be well!/Jonas aka 2Sharp

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[This message has been edited by 2Sharp (edited 06-26-2001).]
 
Well, all Emersons are chisel ground, no matter what the blade shape (tanot or spearpoint). Personally, I like the chisel grind. Easier and quicker to sharpen. The Wave is a must. it costs a bit more, but it's worth every penny.

I've never had problems with the liner lock on any of my Emersons, and I've bought quite a few over the net ("blind"). Never held the Carnie, so I can't give you and advice there, but I trust my Emersons.
 
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