Relative chopping ability of Becker line

Cliff Stamp

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Anyone who has used two or more of the Becker line could you give you opinion on the relative chopping ability in regards to time and/or number of chops?

-Cliff
 
Cliff,
I have three of the Becker models (no machax). What type of chopping are you refering to? I would consider the campanion to have the lowest chopping ability of the three irregardless of the type of material being cut. The magnum camp and brute each have areas in which they out perform the other. I think the magnum camp is a real surprise for anyone using it for the first time. It chops softwood or hardwood saplings up to around two inches in diameter better than can be believed until you do it for yourself.
 
I have a brute and just ordered a machax a few hours ago. I'll do some chopping over winter break and post results. I bought the machax because I found the brute to be too tiring for serious chopping. In general I don't think a 9in blade is the right tool to chop down a tree. But specifically, the blade didn't generate enough momentum to efficently chop branches 3" thick. (this is all relative, and my idea of efficiency is probably not universally shared, but I'm comparing the momentum of the brute's blade with that of my gerber sport axe which weighs less but has a higher center of gravity and which I feel is very efficient) I know the machax isn't any longer than the brute and striking speed will be the same, but I'm hoping it has more head weight because of the bulge and the lack of false edge grinds along the spine. The brute also wanted to leave my hand on the swing, so hopefully the angle of the machax handle will give me more security retaining the knife while reducing fatigue. When chopping something at full arm's length, I found that straightening the wrist at the end of the swing was what wore out my forearms the most. Also an old tennis injury in my right wrist is what chopping with straight blades agravates. So the more the knife approaches an "L" shape, the less I have to move my wrist to allign the blade with the wood and the happier I am. I don't normally buy two blades that are made to do the same job, but at only 70 dollars a piece, I have spent the same amount that I would have paid for a trailmaster. And no blistered hands to show for it.

[This message has been edited by generallobster (edited 12-05-2000).]
 
The Brute and Machex at $70 each....ok now tell us how you get them at this price????
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Ron,
Bremerton, Washington
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Cliff-

I have chopped with the Brute and the Machax, although a comparison is not fair from my experience because they were both done under different circumstances on different types of wood. Also, every time I use the Machax the performance gradually improves due to my slowly "learning" the correct technique of chopping with it. I imagine if I chopped with the Brute more I would also "learn" the best technique to use with it, also. Soon I will be doing the head to head test (that I will videotape, BTW) and both these knives will be included. I will do the tests all under the same controls on the same materials but not all at the same time. I will allow myself some time in between when changing tools so as to better "get used to them" so as to not confuse different chopping techniques that would work well for one knife but terribly with another. I have come to respect the fact that this can be an important factor. The test will include several knives (maybe 10 or 12) and may take up to a month to complete. It will probably be after the first of the year, also, due to the fact that I will be receiving some of the test subjects for Christmas!
But... (after that long winded dissertation above
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) to answer your initial question... from my experiences so far, the Machax is only a little ahead of the Brute. They are both decent choppers. I can't give an exact "number of chops" set of statistics at the moment, but when I'm done, the video will tell. BTW, these are the only two Beckers I own at the moment, though hopefully after Christmas I will have them all. These two and the Bush Hog will be the only ones included in the test.

Peace-
Cam
 
Cam? Is that you, the bloodied kickboxer!?
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Did you deep six that Busse 7? Glad to see you posting.

Sorry for the interruption folks.

L8r,
Nakano
 
Nakano-

Yep, it's me!
And I'm NOT a kickboxer!!!
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I was a kickboxer back in the late 80's/early 90's. I got beat up too much!!!! Now I do the "no rules" type of fighting (go to your local Blockbuster and rent an "Ultimate Fighting Championship" if you have no idea...). Submission grappling is my forte now. I sometimes sign my posts with Orion and sometimes with my real name.

The Basic 7 has served me well. I put it in the closet with the rest of the collection!!!!
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Hope everything is great with you & your's.

Take care-
Cam
 
Leef:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">What type of chopping are you refering to?</font>

All types.

Orion, does your Machax and Brute have the same edge profile? I have seen comments go both ways on those two knives and am wondering if production variances in edge grinds could be the cause.

-Cliff

 
Cliff,
THe BRUTE and the MACHAX both will have thicker edges toward the tip of the blade. The BRUTE will have a somewhat thinner edge overall than the MACHAX. Is this what you wanted to know?

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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
www.camillusknives.com

[This message has been edited by Will Fennell (edited 12-07-2000).]
 
Primarily I was wondering if those who saw the performance go one way or the other in favor of the Machax or Brute could have just been seeing the effect of a slightly thicker or thinner than regular edge. Even a few degrees will make a large difference.

Is the edge thinner on the Brute in the heavy impact chopping area?

-Cliff
 
Cliff-

I can't compare them at the moment because Jay Maines has my Brute right now. You could be correct, though. I will check when it gets back.

Peace-
Cam
 
In regards to the topic, I have not chopped any of my relatives and nor do I plan to.

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Sorry, couldn't resist...

~B.
 
Brian,
The BK&T line was NOT designed with RELATIVE chopping in mind. The above mentioned BRUTE and MACHAX are purpose made to be outdoor work and survival tools.

However, the holidays are upon us, and what you do on your own time is up to you.

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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
www.camillusknives.com
 
Fortunately, most of my relatives live far enough away that they won't be a bother over the holidays and I will be spared relative chopping.


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Hoodoo

I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
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