Reloading - getting started?

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I've been collecting my 5.56/.223 and .40 brass for a while now just for the heck of it. I'd like to get into reloading, but I have no idea where to start. I dont know what my budget is, because I don't know what is the least I can get away with to reload both those calibers. I dont need a fully automated set up, but I also dont want to have to smelt my own sh*t. :D

Where can I start? Whats a good basic setup that will reload a few boxes a month. Are there any good websites better than other? Good videos?


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A wise friend told me: reloading doesn't save you money, it just lets you shoot more! Something to think about.

My recommendation is to try to pick up most of your reloading equipment at a garage sale or gun show. Should be lots of both this time of year. As for brands, it all depends on how much you want to spend. You can get by with a LEE set-up if you don't plan on using it too much. Personally, I am using a Lyman right now; it is working out great for me.
 
An old guy I used to work with talked gunsmithing and reloading with me one day. He did both and was very competitive in his day. As extensive as he got with how he would tweak his rifles and the process to hand load basically grouped and documented sets of rounds, I decided not to hand load. I don't like to half a$$ things and after hearing how to do it right I knew I wouldn't go to all the trouble. So I just shoot factory ammo.
 
I would start with a few reloading manuals, Hornady, rcbs, they all put out their own.

They are mostly full of data, but have basic how to in the beginning to read first.

Then
press press- simple single stage-master that before progressive
dies
case trimmer
tumbler
case mouth deburrer
powderdrop
scale - go digital
primer seater - hand operated has more feel than the press ones

powder
bullets
primers

then thousands of little things like primer flip tray, caseguard boxes, etc....
 
Dillon is the way to go. You can go cheaper, and then upgrade to this after six months.
 
I've been collecting my 5.56/.223 and .40 brass for a while now just for the heck of it. I'd like to get into reloading, but I have no idea where to start. I dont know what my budget is, because I don't know what is the least I can get away with to reload both those calibers. I dont need a fully automated set up, but I also dont want to have to smelt my own sh*t. :D

Where can I start? Whats a good basic setup that will reload a few boxes a month. Are there any good websites better than other? Good videos?

It's probably time to reopen this topic. There are a lot of ways/equipment/resources with which to begin reloading. I recommend the beginner first purchase a current Hornady reloading manual. I believe Hornady prints the most informative and well illustrated reloading manual out there. The early chapters describe and illustrate in detail the why and how of reloading. However, all the various manufacturers Load Manuals are worth having - eventually.

The new reloader should be aware that each bullet manufacturer produces it's own ammunition recipe book, and for good reason. The information contained in the Speer, Hornady, Sierra, etc. manuals do not necessarily reflect each other's load testing experience, but only indicate their testing experience with their own bullet designs.

As for hardware, I recommend the beginning reloader start with a single-stage press. Avoid the basic Lee Loader type kits that involve the use of a hammer to resize and prime cases. The most basic of single stage presses (for example, the Lee single stage press) will produce good quality reloads with appropriate attention to detail. Most single stage presses include a method of priming cases. You may find you want to update to a secondary or specialized tool for priming cases at a later date. I have (and use) many different types and brands of presses, including an old RCBS RockChucker, a Lee basic, as well as Texan and Lyman vintage multi-station presses. The old tools are cool! And massively heavy!

You will need a set of reloading dies for each particular caliber you want to reload. You mentioned 5.56 and .40 so you'd need to purchase a set of dies for each caliber. All manufacturers dies will make good ammo if the owner does his part. I started out (back in the early '60's) with RCBS, mostly because that was advertised most in the popular magazines. They are good tools with a good warranty. All of today's companies manufacture tools of comparable quality and value. I have begun switching my dies out from RCBS to Hornady as I much prefer the Hornady bullet seater design. Your mileage may vary.

You will need a shell holder for each caliber that has a different case head dimension. For example, one case holder can be used for 30-06, .308, and .45 ACP because their case head dimensions are all alike. You would need a different shell holder, however, to load for the 5.56 because it's case head is a different dimension.

You will need an accurate powder scale. Accuracy in measuring quantities of powder becomes very important when approaching maximum velocities of any load. I use an old scale made by Ohause which uses a magnetic approach to weight system and is basically a balance-beam design, but any modern scale will do what is needed. There are some very inexpensive electronic scales on the market. I have not used one so I can't voice an opinion on either their accuracy or their safety.

You will need a method of measuring case lengths. While not too fond of Chinese imports, for a beginner Harbor Freight occasionally offers it's 6" digital readout calipers for $9.95. If I were just starting out I might swallow my sense of marketing/manufacturing fairness and go for one of these. Again, YMMV.

You will need a method of adjusting (shortening) case lengths. Cases tend to 'grow' when fired and when resized. This increase in case length must be kept at or below the maximum case length standard. There are many good tools available that will allow you to correct over-length cases. I personally prefer a file trim die, but some very well engineered mini-lathe type tools are available. I lean toward the die because it's really difficult to mess up with one - it's impossible to get a case too short, for example. Again, YMMV.

You will need a method of cleaning cases. When just starting out, and before you've fully committed to the hobby of reloading you may simply settle for cleaning your cases with everyday metal polishing products, such as Brasso. It's a little labor intensive but it will do the trick. If you are already committed to producing your own ammunition then you might want to consider a vibrating tumbler - case cleaner. Load the cleaner tub with ground corn cob or other commercial products, toss in your dirty, oxidized brass cases and turn it on. When you empty the vibrator the cases will be as shiny as new.

You will eventually want a method of dispensing powder. Hand measuring each charge of powder for each empty case becomes mind numbing if many reloads are involved at one time. Consider some sort of powder dispenser to speed up this step. I have a couple RCBS rotary measures I routinely use that are more than accurate enough for any load requirement. I use the RCBS Little Dandy powder measure for pistol loads, and the larger RCBS powder measure for rifle cases in excess of the 5.56. YMMV

Over time there will be many more specialized tools you will add to your tool chest. For example, primer pocket cleaners, both large and small, case neck brushes for scrubbing powder residue from fired cases, and even a primer pocket swager die set for removing the crimp from military cases, a specialized trimmer to remove the excess brass from inside the case around the flash hole, and many, many more goodies the confirmed reloader eventually accumulates.

Good luck, happy reloading, and keep your powder dry.
 
Adrock1978... Here's more info for you. Just take it slow.
www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=42

As jm4738 said: Start with the basic single-stage reloader first.
I would try reload handgun caliber first because they are easier and simpler than rifle caliber.
 
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+1 start with a simple single stage press and get the basics down. The single stage press will come in handy even when you advance to nicer rigs.
 
I realize my first response was not as helpful as I intended. So I will say the most useful info he told me. Basically, once ALL other variables are accounted for to get the MOST you want to document and sort your casings into their groupings. Then you will be able to have zero excuses for your shooting :-)
 
So that is to say for example you are shooting in a controlled environment with nothing to effect your groupings aside from inconsistencies in your casings, you sort them for the next hand loading and document their grouping as a reference for the next time at the range. Just to be clear of what I mean. This is assuming your rifle and you the shooter r 100% repeatable and consistent in a controlled environment or your just that good :-)
 
I think it makes sense, but at the point you have nothing left to effect your groupings aside from inconsistencies in shell casings, sort and document them. :-)

Good luck.
 
Dillion. After a year you will invest about $1500+ and need a room to it's own. I reloaded for 20 years. I did save some money because I was in a a pistol league and would shoot at least 300 round .45 for practice per week. I also reloaded all my rifle cartridges to fine tune accuracy. If you don't shoot a lot or are not reloading for super accuracy it's easier to buy ammo on sale. Dillion 550.
 
Now... that's the type of Busse section on blade forum responses I expected. Thank you. Everyone. Jm4738 mucho thanks. It sounds like it's only economic if I shoot a lot more than I currently do. Otherwise its just a hobby or a passion. Which is cool too. Either way I think I want to get into it.
 
I got into reloading to save money. Then I found that I could draw out the very last drop of accuracy by 'tuning' loads to the quirks of each weapon. Really paid off.

I still use RCBS equipment from long ago.

Good luck
 
I think you will save money regardless of how much you shoot. It isn't like your powder and primers expire like dairy products. You don't need to spend a ton of money on presses. I got a Lee Turret Press and a RCBS Rock Chucker used, with assorted other stuff for $150.
 
I have a Dillon 550 and love it. I would not however recommend it for the beginner. Nor would I let a friend start reloading with rifle cartridges. Buy a single stage Lee loader, a set of Lee carbide dies in .40, and several manuals like Lyman, Hornady, and Speer.

Loading a .40 is a little more confusing than a 9mm or .45. If the brass was shot out of anything you can basicly resize it and shoot it in a Glock. If it was shot in a Glock you cannot reliably reload it and shoot it in a tight chambered weapon like a Sig unless you buy a special Redding die that will resize the brass all the way. Sorry if that was confusing. I rarely post anything but questions here http://forums.handloads.com/ but some of the old timers are a WEALTH of information on this site. In my opinion you can load a bunch of .40s in your spare time with this set up and save some money. IMO you have to spend a lot of money on better equipment to load rifles in any type of quantity like I assume you use in 5.56. Having all of said expensive equipment I have often wondered if i would have been better off just shooting wolf .223 and geeting a seperate bolt for real life use.

I would not buy any type of progressive press to start with, there is too much going on at once.
 
I have a Dillon 550 and love it. I would not however recommend it for the beginner. Nor would I let a friend start reloading with rifle cartridges. Buy a single stage Lee loader, a set of Lee carbide dies in .40, and several manuals like Lyman, Hornady, and Speer.

Loading a .40 is a little more confusing than a 9mm or .45. If the brass was shot out of anything you can basicly resize it and shoot it in a Glock. If it was shot in a Glock you cannot reliably reload it and shoot it in a tight chambered weapon like a Sig unless you buy a special Redding die that will resize the brass all the way. Sorry if that was confusing. I rarely post anything but questions here http://forums.handloads.com/ but some of the old timers are a WEALTH of information on this site. In my opinion you can load a bunch of .40s in your spare time with this set up and save some money. IMO you have to spend a lot of money on better equipment to load rifles in any type of quantity like I assume you use in 5.56. Having all of said expensive equipment I have often wondered if i would have been better off just shooting wolf .223 and geeting a seperate bolt for real life use.

I would not buy any type of progressive press to start with, there is too much going on at once.
So your saying it takes much more expensive equipment to reliably load rifle cartridges and for that reason I should start out doing pistol cartridges? Is the dillon 550 or 650 considered progressive? What's "progressive? A machine that does multiple steps?
 
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