Removable handle scales

[Silver Needle]

All of my favorite knife models have removable handle scales. I understand that without epoxy or something like it, moisture can get under the scales. I do really like the idea of being able to remove the scales to clean, dry and oil underneath. With handle scales that are permanently attached like with tubes instead of screws, I would be afraid I'd never know if there was corrosion lurking between the scales and the tang.

Any thoughts to support or oppose me? I've had a lot of handle thoughts and questions running through my mind lately!

 

[OBX351]

In theory epoxied handles with stainless fasteners shouldn't rust. I have an 01 bushcrafter with an exposed tang as the scales are in 2 pieces like our S!Ks scales. Anyway, the exposed 01 is starting to discolor, not rust, more so than the spine of the knife. I bet the rest of the tang, that is under the scales, is fine. However I think a partial or rat tang knife inserted into a wooden handle and fastened by pins would be more likely to rust. I don't have experience with it but I've read about it.

Sorry for the edit....I prefer the removable scales for the same reason as you do. I clean and scrub mine every 3 to 4 months. Josh told me, before the move out west, to use Dawn. Warm water, soap and a small scrub brush really brings my scales back to life.

 

[Standard78]

I like removable scales because it gives you the ability personalize the knife.
These knives without scales will make a great spear if you were in a pinch also.

 

[Armalite Native]

I avoid anything with Loveless bolts or epoxy unless its a primitive hemp wrap over a full tang. Scales on folders and fixee blades need to have removable scales or I am out. The one exception I made to this was a Shadowtech knife where the use of Loveless screws was reflected in the asking price.

 

[Silver Needle]

Thanks for the input, gentlemen!

I guess a big thing that got me thinking is that most customs and fancy pants knives have scales that are pinned on. So far we have some good points that were brought up, but what am I missing about why super expensive knives mostly have pins instead of screws?

 

[Riz!]

Removeable scales are one of the original reasons I switched from Barkies. I like to clean under the scales and if I want I can change the colors or materials

 

[MatthewSB]

I believe that permanently attached scales are fine on a knife that will see perfect attention to detail, ensuring that all of the preparation is done properly before gluing everything together. I've had an epoxied and bolted micarta handle pop loose (on a knife that didn't receive perfect attention to detail) I'm not sure why but it happened shortly after I bought it and the maker re-handled the knife and it was fine after.

I'm guessing that one big reason to epoxy the scales, is because OCD customers might re-install them crooked, then hassle the maker about "the scales don't fit fix my knife".

 

[SURVIVE! Ellie]

Thanks for the input, gentlemen!

I guess a big thing that got me thinking is that most customs and fancy pants knives have scales that are pinned on. So far we have some good points that were brought up, but what am I missing about why super expensive knives mostly have pins instead of screws?

I believe that permanently attached scales are fine on a knife that will see perfect attention to detail, ensuring that all of the preparation is done properly before gluing everything together. I've had an epoxied and bolted micarta handle pop loose (on a knife that didn't receive perfect attention to detail) I'm not sure why but it happened shortly after I bought it and the maker re-handled the knife and it was fine after.

I'm guessing that one big reason to epoxy the scales, is because OCD customers might re-install them crooked, then hassle the maker about "the scales don't fit fix my knife".

I can't speak for all on this one but Matthew's comment about the fit reminded me that for some makers/companies they buff and/or polish the knife perimeters after the handles have been attached. While that means those scales and tang are a perfect seamless fit for each other, that same fitment won't work as well with another blade or set of scales. If the scales are permanently attached, they don't have to worry as much about super consistent tolerances.

 

[Silver Needle]

I can't speak for all on this one but Matthew's comment about the fit reminded me that for some makers/companies they buff and/or polish the knife perimeters after the handles have been attached. While that means those scales and tang are a perfect seamless fit for each other, that same fitment won't work as well with another blade or set of scales. If the scales are permanently attached, they don't have to worry as much about super consistent tolerances.

Thanks for the input, sister. That makes sense about the fit of the handles. I prefer removable scales personally, but wanted to see if I was missing out on something.