Replacement stones for edgepro apex

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Nate Dog

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I was looking to replace my stock edgepro apex with one of the following choseras, shapton, or atoma stones. Any advice would be very helpful. Sharpening steels from vg-10 up to s110v, and a few in between.
 
Search for Chosera Edge Pro stones on Google.com, also sharpening related questions go in Mainteannce, Tinkering, & Embellishment, not in General Knife Discussion.
 
I just bought six Shapton glass stones for my EP 220, 320, 500, 1k, 2k, 4k.
I've read good things about them. Getting ready to check them out.
 
I've been using the stock EP stones with my EP Pro for the last few years . I also have 3k, 5k, and 10k
Chosera stones for it. Just used the Shaptons last night and they are far superior to the EP and Chosera
stones imo. They remove steel like crazy and gave me the the best edge I have ever had straight off the stones.
 
Nate Dog said:
I was looking to replace my stock edgepro apex with one of the following choseras, shapton, or atoma stones. Any advice would be very helpful. Sharpening steels from vg-10 up to s110v, and a few in between.
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You'll need the Atoma for steels like s90v and s110v. Shapton Glass stones would be my choice for everything else (actually, it's what I'm slowly switching my stones to, except for the Atoma 140 for setting the initial bevel).
 
+1 on the EP Shaptons
I was finally buying my EP in December and I just happened across an on line only kitchen knife vendor and they sold the EPs with Shaptons already in the kit. I sure lucked out there. Until that moment I didn't even know Shaptons were available for the EP.
Came with 500 , 1000 and 5000.
I never thought I would be getting mirror edges off a 5000 but it is close enough to a mirror to be darned pretty.
I always figured I would need coarser than 500 and an 8000 but so far I'm doing good with just what they set it up with.

Probably by this coming summer I will have bought some more Shaptons for it. I'm pretty into my stones. I wish they were colored like the Shapton Pros so I could tell at a glance what to reach for next. Barring that I wish the grit number was engraved into the aluminum backing. It is just written on with a magic marker (and inked on the stone but that wears off pretty fast if you use the whole surface of the stone / stroke of the rod like is recommended.
 
loonybin said:
You'll need the Atoma for steels like s90v and s110v. Shapton Glass stones would be my choice for everything else (actually, it's what I'm slowly switching my stones to, except for the Atoma 140 for setting the initial bevel).
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Interesting....

I use my Shapton Glass stones for the high carbide steels including this one below..... I use those and my Congress Moldmasters for everything.

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If people can't zoom in enough that's an S125V knife, for reference. I'm sure it's probably at 62-63 RC, if I was a betting man.
 
The Shapton 220grit is 66.82 micron. Dmt XC is 60 micron.
The Shapton 220 cuts like crazy.
 
Ankerson said:
Interesting....

I use my Shapton Glass stones for the high carbide steels including this one below..... I use those and my Congress Moldmasters for everything.

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You reprofile blades like that with Shapton Glass stones? I can understand using them to keep it sharp (I do that), but setting the initial bevel from a ridiculously obtuse and/or uneven bevel (yes, I'm talking Benchmade) just struck me as being a pain until I got some diamond plates to set the initial bevel.
 
loonybin said:
You reprofile blades like that with Shapton Glass stones? I can understand using them to keep it sharp (I do that), but setting the initial bevel from a ridiculously obtuse and/or uneven bevel (yes, I'm talking Benchmade) just struck me as being a pain until I got some diamond plates to set the initial bevel.
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Silicon Carbide. ;)

Found it will eat any steel that I have ever seen with no problem at all.

And it's fast, much faster than diamonds. ;)
 
I have not used the Shaptons but I have the full Chosera set for my Edge Pro and I love them, especially the 6mm thick versions. They cut much faster than the stock stones and have much better feedback. And the 5K and 10K stone give me beautiful polished edges that look fantastic.
 
I agree SiC will cut most any steel and they wear different than diamond. Offering better economy. Plus, one doesn't cut much faster than the other so not a clear advantage. I agree with Jim. DM
 
David Martin said:
I agree SiC will cut most any steel and they wear different than diamond. Offering better economy. Plus, one doesn't cut much faster than the other so not a clear advantage. I agree with Jim. DM
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Any recommendations, then for a SiC equivalent to a Atoma 140? I already have a DMT XC/C diamond plate that I ise on my Edge Pro, but something lighter would be nice.
 
loonybin said:
Any recommendations, then for a SiC equivalent to a Atoma 140? I already have a DMT XC/C diamond plate that I ise on my Edge Pro, but something lighter would be nice.
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When reprofiling any thick, really wear resistant steel, nothing is going to be all that fast except power equipment. But I do it with congress ruby stones. I probably need to get some that are lower grit though. Right now I use a 180 grit, I believe, then jump to 320 moldmasters. I get knives pretty sharp at 400 grit, but I like 800 better for my own uses. I also strop a little bit at the tail end but not enough to make a huge difference. It just cleans up whatever is left over after the stones.
 
I'll put in a vote for the Shapton Glasstones. I had only used them freehand prior to this weekend, and they cut fast and stay flat, even on high carbide steels. I used them on my Edge Pro this weekend to take my ZDP 189 Endura up to 16000 grit and they are just as great on the Edge Pro as they are freehand. At 320 grit the edge popped hairs very nicely (and this would make a great edge if you need to do prolonged slicing), and it just kept getting sharper as I went through the grits. I really do like these stones and I'm happy they are available on the edge pro now.
 
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