Reputable knife makers vs the other guy.

[TheEdge01]

I’m seeing more and more cheap stuff being advertised as “handmade”‘online. Actually, a legitimate knife maker caught someone advertising one of his knives for a fraction of the price.
Unfortunately, someone on my friends list has already ordered a ton of knives from a guy that is supposedly from Amsterdam. Yesterday I seen someone on a Pops Knife Supply Facebook page advertising the same knives under a different username claiming to be from Pakistan.
This can make it really difficult for actual knife makers because the general public doesn’t always see the warning signs.

 

[DanF]

Poser’s abound, unfortunately, and it sucks. It’s hard to do anything about someone “somewhere else” other than outing them so other’s know.
What gets me are the claims of magnificence (awards that did not happen, fake sales, etc). People have built their knife-world persona’s based on half truths, untruths, and crawling up and over the backs of real, proven knife makers.
Those that can do it, it shows. Those that can’t, are little better than thieves.

 

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It's all Wazirabad Pakistan

It's a whole cottage industry and it's business as usual to create hundreds of fake accounts with images stolen from real makers.

Social media is a real minefield os shitty damascus made of dodgy materials from ship breakers

They offer to sell them to users.

They also contact makers and offer to wholesale them to legitimate makers to resell as their own.

After a while you can eyeball the pakistan stuff by style alone.

I believe Rich Marchand had spammers offer to sell him a knife that he made.

 

[DanF]

^Dang, that’s bad, your own knife!

 

[Horsewright]

Every once in a while I'll have a customer contact me and provide me with a link to someone using pics of my knives and selling theirs. wknhuntinggear.com has 49 pictures as of this morning in their Cowboy Knife section. Heck even have their watermarks on em. If they got 49 of mine how many others of the hundreds that they have are actually their own?

 

[TheEdge01]

Every once in a while I'll have a customer contact me and provide me with a link to someone using pics of my knives and selling theirs. wknhuntinggear.com has 49 pictures as of this morning in their Cowboy Knife section. Heck even have their watermarks on em. If they got 49 of mine how many others of the hundreds that they have are actually their own?

More than likely the weird impractical designs are theirs, the rest is “borrowed” from others.

 

[Horsewright]

More than likely the weird impractical designs are theirs, the rest is “borrowed” from others.

Could be. In cowboy vernacular though, there is a type of knife referred to as a "nutter." Some of these can be extreme with a large sweeping finger guards. Different way of doing things then what we do around here, but the idea is to prevent the hand getting kicked forward onto the blade when castrating a bull calf in a chute. Many times they'll be blunt nosed too. Then ya don't stab your other hand when ya get kicked.

What we do around here is rope the calves and have the horses restrain them while being processed and so you are out in the open and can see what you are doing. So ya don't see that type of knife much in this part of cow country. Here the wife just turned this bull calf into a steer:

Spud and I have the front legs of this calf. Keeping those legs off the ground prevent the calf from struggling. Somebody else will have the back legs:

Spud eye view:

This is actually pretty easy on the calves but ya got to have good ropers (we do) and ya keep the best interests of the calf in mind. While restrained they are gonna get a series of shots that help boost their immune systems (most are squirted up the nose with out a needle), ear tagged, branded, wormed and castrated if a bull calf. Restrained for just a few minutes processed and then turned back loose with their mom. We don't even put them through the stress of being separated from their moms while being processed:

Some of those knives that you and I might look at as impractical are popular in other places where they do things different. Ya know the trick? Finding them suckers sometimes "out there!"

 

[TheEdge01]

Could be. In cowboy vernacular though, there is a type of knife referred to as a "nutter." Some of these can be extreme with a large sweeping finger guards. Different way of doing things then what we do around here, but the idea is to prevent the hand getting kicked forward onto the blade when castrating a bull calf in a chute. Many times they'll be blunt nosed too. Then ya don't stab your other hand when ya get kicked.

What we do around here is rope the calves and have the horses restrain them while being processed and so you are out in the open and can see what you are doing. So ya don't see that type of knife much in this part of cow country. Here the wife just turned this bull calf into a steer:

Spud and I have the front legs of this calf. Keeping those legs off the ground prevent the calf from struggling. Somebody else will have the back legs:

Spud eye view:

Really cool! Thanks for sharing!

 

[ea42]

Could be. In cowboy vernacular though, there is a type of knife referred to as a "nutter." Some of these can be extreme with a large sweeping finger guards. Different way of doing things then what we do around here, but the idea is to prevent the hand getting kicked forward onto the blade when castrating a bull calf in a chute. Many times they'll be blunt nosed too. Then ya don't stab your other hand when ya get kicked.

What we do around here is rope the calves and have the horses restrain them while being processed and so you are out in the open and can see what you are doing. So ya don't see that type of knife much in this part of cow country. Here the wife just turned this bull calf into a steer:

Spud and I have the front legs of this calf. Keeping those legs off the ground prevent the calf from struggling. Somebody else will have the back legs:

Spud eye view:

This is actually pretty easy on the calves but ya got to have good ropers (we do) and ya keep the best interests of the calf in mind. While restrained they are gonna get a series of shots that help boost their immune systems (most are squirted up the nose with out a needle), ear tagged, branded, wormed and castrated if a bull calf. Restrained for just a few minutes processed and then turned back loose with their mom. We don't even put them through the stress of being separated from their moms while being processed:

Some of those knives that you and I might look at as impractical are popular in other places where they do things different. Ya know the trick? Finding them suckers sometimes "out there!"

Dave, AWESOME post!!

Eric

 

[Horsewright]

Really cool! Thanks for sharing!

Dave, AWESOME post!!

Eric

Thanks guys! Ya bet!