Request for opinions on a HA HA experience on the bay.

matthewtstock

matthewtstock

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I recently purchased a 75th Anniversary Cocobolo 119 on the bay. No expanded pics were available, but the seller had 100% positive feedback and described the knife as "new in the box", "mint" and "unused". The knife I received is pictured with a mint and unused 75th 119 from my collection.

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As you can see the blade is not quite in the pristine condition the seller had described. As you might guess when I contacted the seller and amicably attempted to settle the matter his response turned the situation into a bit of a comedy:

"I have good news for you though. Buck does in fact offer re-blading, refinishing, and what they call "spa treatment" on all their knives due to their Forever Warranty (which is FREE in most cases). So you can choose to either have a brand new blade put on that knife or have it reground and/or refinished. At most, a full blade replacement on Buck Knives would be $10 (according to their website and warranty form) which I have included a link to in this email which is listed below . . ."

When I suggested his description was just plain incorrect and suggested I return the knife at his expense the seller got a little worked up and ended our parlay with some not so kind words that I will not share here.

After placing a complaint and leaving the seller negative, albeit truthful, feedback I have received an offer for a full refund upon returning the blade. However, I am pretty sure I no longer wish to return such a fine knife to an ignorant seller. I think he deserves the negative feedback, perhaps he may learn from the experience. Furthermore, I have no concern about the $$ involved. I would like to send the knife to the SPA and return the blade to its former glory.

My question for you gentlemen is do you think it possible to restore the blade to mint condition considering a lot of the defining lines have been polished away, Especially around the fuller and along the top of the grind. Perhaps J J Hubbard could offer his professional opinion. I appreciate any opinions offered. Thank You.
 
Buck doesnt offer a 10 dollar blade replacement on fixed blades but does offer a Spa treatment and will turn your knife into a new looking blade. Overall polish. Well worth the effort to send to them.
 
Return it "not as described". Especially if you paid a "new" price.
I get the impression eBay tends to side with the buyer.
Forever Warranty does not cover cosmetics, that is why they can sell blems.
A spa is not without cost and will not return the grind lines if that is what you want.
As a 75th Anniv collector the value is gone, even with a spa.
You are giving mixed signals, not happy with it but at the same time not wanting to return it.
If you got a bargain and it is going to be a user, move on.
Life is too short for a mediocre knife if it bothers you.
 
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I don't understand... you're not happy with the knife, filed a complaint with ebay and have been offered a full return on the knife upon returning it, but yet you still want to keep it... assuming without a refund, since you say " I have no concern about the $$ involved".

If that's the case, then why the big stink on ebay, and why bring the pissing match here?

The pics in the auction listing shows the condition of the grind line and fuller being "muddy".

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I'll not comment any further... what you decide to do is between you, ebay, and/or the seller.
 
I don't believe it could be made to look as if it had good defining lines.
Could it be it got "too much attention" during finishing at factory?.
Probably not, I don't know..... I have some Houser customs that are well polished.
And that's cool!

I've an old car that I have went out of my way to preserve it's character. It's part of it's history. Not the same, I know, but it is a way of looking at it. I love it for what it is.

If you're unhappy, just send it back and remove the negative feedback upon refund.
If the pic's posted are from the listing, they appear to be accurate. ..

It looks to be a nice knife.
I'd consider keeping it, remove the feedback because of the refund offer, and chalk it up to a learning experience.
 
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I have used the SPA on several occasions and am aware of the costs, etc. The suggestion of having the knife re bladed for free was an obvious sign of someone who has no idea what they are talking about and just trying to pass the buck.

caquino caquino no need for harsh words as I have not used any here.

I found the whole experience amusing. The reason I would like to keep the knife is sometimes its better to turn a negative experience into something positive. I thought sharing this experience might bring a chuckle due to the silliness of the sellers suggestions. Woops.

Thanks kindly for the opinions.
 
Yes it’s kinda amusing when someone tries to pass something off as mint condition that has obviously been altered and offers a “ you can get it fixed ” remedy for a mint condition item . Ha ha.
This seller obviously doesn’t know the terms or conditions of the spa treatment he so confidently states. Haha. I’ll have to check out this blade replacement for fixed blade knives for such a low cost.
I’m guessing he has done some research to know about the spa program but has failed to understand all the limitations and to which models are in the offer.
Yep, I’d probably keep it as well for a user and chalk it ip to a learning experience.
 
matthewtstock said:
I recently purchased a 75th Anniversary Cocobolo 119 on the bay. No expanded pics were available, but the seller had 100% positive feedback and described the knife as "new in the box", "mint" and "unused". The knife I received is pictured with a mint and unused 75th 119 from my collection.

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As you can see the blade is not quite in the pristine condition the seller had described. As you might guess when I contacted the seller and amicably attempted to settle the matter his response turned the situation into a bit of a comedy:

"I have good news for you though. Buck does in fact offer re-blading, refinishing, and what they call "spa treatment" on all their knives due to their Forever Warranty (which is FREE in most cases). So you can choose to either have a brand new blade put on that knife or have it reground and/or refinished. At most, a full blade replacement on Buck Knives would be $10 (according to their website and warranty form) which I have included a link to in this email which is listed below . . ."

When I suggested his description was just plain incorrect and suggested I return the knife at his expense the seller got a little worked up and ended our parlay with some not so kind words that I will not share here.

After placing a complaint and leaving the seller negative, albeit truthful, feedback I have received an offer for a full refund upon returning the blade. However, I am pretty sure I no longer wish to return such a fine knife to an ignorant seller. I think he deserves the negative feedback, perhaps he may learn from the experience. Furthermore, I have no concern about the $$ involved. I would like to send the knife to the SPA and return the blade to its former glory.

My question for you gentlemen is do you think it possible to restore the blade to mint condition considering a lot of the defining lines have been polished away, Especially around the fuller and along the top of the grind. Perhaps J J Hubbard could offer his professional opinion. I appreciate any opinions offered. Thank You.
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A couple things..

We never polish or satin finish along the length of the blade. We always go across like in the bottom picture. We can re-satin that blade, but the blood groove will still not be crisp on the edges. It does appear to still have the factory edge.

Hope this helps.

Jeff
 
I've read the buyers response.
Good grief.
I think a decent seller would stand behind their product. It's so much easier to just get along with people.

In light of J Hubbards response, I retract my original statement.......(as I shake my head.)

Good luck Matthew!.
I've dealt with you, I've a clue who you are.
 
I just wonder who thought that “treatment”
of that blade was a good thing? On a standard 119 maybe but anyone who knows collector value should know thats a No No?
DN
 
My two cents: Send it back to seller. The money will be helpful for other things and you won't have to remember the event every time you look at it. Get rid of the knife and move on with your life.

Sorry you got caught up in this mishegoss.
 
The Zieg said:
Send it back to seller.
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I agree, but am concerned with the feedback options.

IMHO, this seller deserves negative feedback. I hope just because you return the item that was 'not as described' doesn't mean he gets a positive rating. Even no rating is not acceptable...other buyers need to be made aware of his attempt to misrepresent the knife.
 
After pondering the matter for a day I have sent the knife to Mr. Hubbard and his associates. I have no plans on changing any feedback due to the accusatory attitude of the seller.

There are also vertical marks on the blade that do not show in the picture, I assume it was used and as jbmonkey jbmonkey suggested, someone attempted a mirror polish.

Thanks Again gents for the opinions, comments and advice.
 
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