returned kershaw od-1

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after a weeks use of the kershaw od-1 (liked not loved), i debated on taking it back and today was my last straw with it. it takes a wicked edge, but it used it this morning to cut the rope on the sod and to trim the sod up, wiped the blade off and stuck it back in the pocket. well later that day i open it back up and its got rust spot all over the durn blade and handle :mad::mad: i understand the fact that the grass or soil in the sod had moisture, but really now? in less than 5 hours its going to develop that much rust. and im talking, the whole blade had small iddy biddy rust spots.

i also understand about knife maintenance, but i went to go buy a work knife, one to use and abuse, cut what i need and put it back without worrying about rust. im guessing it was just the steel, sandvik 14c28n ss, just not being rust resistant enough or w/e, but oh well. i ended up returning the knife and bought the Buck Omni Hunter 365, rubberized handles, buck's legendary 420hc steel, and a kydex (??) sheath.

first thoughts on the buck, it has a nice, thin grind and a big ol' belly on the blade. locks up nice, feels great in the hand, sliced up a bagel nicely (little better than the kershaw od-1)

just thought about it and ill give a week after review on the od-1.

the kershaw od-1, also my first but not last kershaw purchase, was a very nice knife. locked up good, sharp out of the box, came out faster than my auto knives and auto assist knives. i like kershaw's flipper design. although the flipper tab was a little loose, which bothered me, but i tested 3 different knives and the problem was apparent on all of them. the blade stayed sharp for the first day and got touched up on a ceramic stone every night.

day to day chores were pretty standard for a work knife. cut string, cord, plastic strapping, clean fingernails, slice bagel and apples.

the more hefty chores were, maybe, a little strenuous on a light-medium use folder. trimmed up maybe 30 pieces of sod. i work at a cemetery, so we lay the sod on the ground, on a grave and cut the sod to the out line of the grave. so the knive cuts through the sod into the ground. i also cut many many lengths of weed eater cord/wire/whatever you call it. 5lb cord by stihl.
we found some bamboo about ~25 ft tall and cut the branches off of 14 stalks of bamboo ranging between 15 and 25 feet, which the blade was hair popping sharp before and hair popping sharp after 30 minutes of straight cutting bamboo limbs. there was zero, 0, blade play. which im use to fairly cheap folders for my work knives and that last act would have caused them to wiggle side to side afterwards, but not the od-1. i also eat alot of apples and wittle alot of oak and pine while at work when we have down time. i wittle hard, dry oak limbs about 3/4 inch and maybe 10 inches long.

it performed well during that week and got many comments on it, "sharp knife, thats a good lookin' knife, ect..." but i couldn't get past the rust on the blade. i keep my blade fairly clean and wipe it off any chance i get and i did clean it one time with a tooth brush, warm water and dial soap after the sod cutting/trimming. i dont really know why it would rust though? maybe because i sweat alot and cut that weed eater cord and salt/water = corrosion heaven?

anyways, i got the buck omni hunter 395 series now. maybe it'll stand the test of time, i'll use it for a week and decide then. so far its been good, no blade play, sharp, good lock up. but i dont know about the sheath, does anyone have any experience with a buck kydex sheath? i always have bad experiences with the sheath snagging on stuff, especially when i get in and out of the truck. i ripped my last "kydex" sheath..dunno if it was kydex or polyester or something. it was cheap though. i can tell you, if this buck doesn't turn out like i want it to :grumpy: then ill return it and just replace my misplaced vic super tinker. im just testing out a new work knife because i misplaced my SAK. and does anyone have any experience with using the knife?
 
You should have taken pics of the rusty blade, I would have liked to see it. I have never heard a story about any blade rusting that bad after 5 hours. I wonder if something was wrong with the steel? I dunno, I personally havent had a single problem with 14c28n rusting at all and really like it a lot
 
i didn't think of taking any pictures of it >_> it was like it had chicken pox, but with rust spots. it wasn't there this morning, but afterwards it sure as heck was. and this is teh first blade i've had problems with like that.
 
Soil/sod full of nitrogen will setup corrosion on a blade quickly. I dont believe it was the knife as much as it was the material cut. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
Kershaws bead blast finish is a rust magnet. Combine that with aforementioned points and you've got yourself a rusty blade. My kershaws barely rust but when they do flitz kills it immediatly
 
Soil/sod full of nitrogen will setup corrosion on a blade quickly. I dont believe it was the knife as much as it was the material cut. Maybe I'm wrong.

With my toxic sweat and the continual 100+ days here, I can rust some stainless blades in just a few hours in my pocket. Since I work outside, my jeans (and me!) are soaked in sweat for as much as 12 hours a day. Carbon steel blades (that I much prefer) are out as pocket carriers until winter hits here.

Since the OD1 was outside of a sweaty pocket being used to cut different materials, I would think that particular steel would have been fine since sooner or later it could dry a bit while outside the pocket and in use. Besides, water isn't tough at all on Kershaw's new steel.

I agree with JCurd. Many years ago I took a job with a landscaping company. Part of our work was to lay sod. Since the 1" layer of dirt was heavily fertilized with nitrogen and ammonia based fertilizers, it ate up everything, including our big chromed knives we used to cut the sod into pieces. The carbon steels didn't have a chance of making a day without a lot of rust.

+1 on JCurd's thoughts.

Robert
 
yeah, i didn't even think about that. but oh well, ill see how long this buck lasts and if its any worse, ill probably end up getting another knife...probably just go get a leatherman wave or something
 
I have to wipe down my OD-1 any time i use it around moisture or it will develop very small rust spots. I think the people who blame the bead blasting are correct, it harbors moisture, and also makes it more difficult to get the spots off once they form. My skyline seems to fare much better around moisture, not sure why.
 
day to day chores were pretty standard for a work knife. cut string, cord, plastic strapping, clean fingernails, slice bagel and apples.

the more hefty chores were, maybe, a little strenuous on a light-medium use folder. trimmed up maybe 30 pieces of sod. i work at a cemetery, so we lay the sod on the ground, on a grave and cut the sod to the out line of the grave. so the knive cuts through the sod into the ground. i also cut many many lengths of weed eater cord/wire/whatever you call it. 5lb cord by stihl.
we found some bamboo about ~25 ft tall and cut the branches off of 14 stalks of bamboo ranging between 15 and 25 feet, which the blade was hair popping sharp before and hair popping sharp after 30 minutes of straight cutting bamboo limbs. there was zero, 0, blade play. which im use to fairly cheap folders for my work knives and that last act would have caused them to wiggle side to side afterwards, but not the od-1. i also eat alot of apples and wittle alot of oak and pine while at work when we have down time. i wittle hard, dry oak limbs about 3/4 inch and maybe 10 inches long.

Wow that sounds like some pretty hard use for something as small as the OD-1. I'm impressed that it had zero issues with that (besides the rust).

If cutting sod and stuff like that is something you do quite regularly, I would recommend you check out the ZT0500. Or if you're on more of a budget, its baby brother the RAM (get one with the black blade coating so you won't have any rust worries). Just an awesome knife.
 
If I was cutting sod I would have a stack of Moras...and for the record, using a knife in an environment that begs for rust, then being excited about a new knife is fricken lame...if you use a knife improperly, the manufacturer shouldnt have to replace it.

Putting it in nitrogen rich sod or using it as a screwdriver, both are abuse.
 
When you are corroding stainless steels in a matter of hours it's a pretty safe bet there is more than moisture at work. J. Curd, thanks for explaining the cause and effect in this situation. A simple rinse of the knife after use, then a wipe with a cloth like an outers silicone cloth ( less than $3 at most places) sure would have prevented this.

By doing something as simple as this you could even use a carbon steel knife and not have a lot of trouble.

It's pretty easy to see some people didn't grow up using carbon steel blades that you actually had to take care of :) I can understand a lot of companies reluctance to use some of the carbon steel blades in other than specialty knives.
 
I can't speak to the corrosive properties of nitrogen, but my bead blasted Kershaw knives in the previous generation Sandvik 13..... steel (can't remember the full name) were all prone to pinprick sized rust spots. I only buy Kershaws with the higher end steel now.
 
Some of the bead blasted Kershaws in Sandvik steel can be a little rust prone, but, proper care will avoid most all rust. When you get a new Sandvik Kershaw make one pass over with Flitz most all rust problems/worries will be taken care of. I used my 14C28 Zing to cut up a pear yesterday then stuck it back in my pocket for about 7 hours. I washed it off in the sink when I got home and laid it out to dry without wiping it down..... I just checked..... no rust. Flitz is your friend, plus, it is one of a very few metal polish/protectants that is certified food safe :thumbup:
 
as stated before, kershaws beadblast finish is a rust magnet. I consider the beadblasty to be the one flaw on an otherwise fantastic knife. i have had problems with all of my kershaw BB knives developing rust specks.
 
Oh well, I won't let this negative experience with my first kershaw keep me from purchasing an otherwise great knife. But I'm gonna stick with the buck, its a brand I know and trust for right now. I was just to lazy for basic knife maintenance ;/ just one thing I don't wanna bother with during the day while at work.
 
I've had luck using Eezox to prevent rust on knives that don't get cleaned frequently (girlfriend's knives). I wouldn't count on it being food safe though.
 
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