Review: A.G. Russell Skorpion flipper

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. . . with this knife, the A.G. Russell Skorpion:

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Here are the A.G. Russell site specs for the knife:

Type: Folder
Blade: Drop Point
Blade Length: 3-7/16″
Steel: 8Cr13MoV Rockwell 57-59
Lock: Frame Lock
Handle: Featherlight™ Steel
Closed Length: 4-1/4″
Clip: Removable/Reversible
Weight: 3.2 oz.
Origin: China

Starting with the basics, a few snapshots:

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It's ultra-slim and and quite light. Lighter than expected when I first weighed it:

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But I forgot that I'd removed the clip. About the clip, it's drilled for every option, four ways, and comes with both a regular and deep carry clip:

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With the heavier of the two clips installed, the deep carry one, it weighed as listed:

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The specs and description on the site don't really explain just how thin this thing is (about 7mm thick, not counting the clip). Here it is lined up between a couple of similarly sized knives, a Spyderco Sage 2 and a Benchmade 940:

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I picked the 940 and Sage 2 because they're both thin knives, but as you can see they're pretty fat compared to the Skorpion.

I rooted around for knives that were a similar thickness, and had to move down to smaller knives to find some that were in the same thickness neighborhood for comparison, this shot shows it between a Mcusta Tsuchi small and a CRKT Ripple:

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Here's another comparison shot with the Benchmade 940 and a ginormous Spyderco PM2:

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And again next to one of the knives that I found in my pile that was similarly thin--the difference being that the Skorpion is a much, much larger knife:

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It feels surprisingly great in hand. The blade shape is almost a long Wharncliffe-type deal, and I really like it. Also, it surprised me by feeling so sturdy, really sturdy. I really levered and twisted hard looking for play or lock-up issues, but this thing is solid in every direction. I mean, locked it feels like a thin, strong bar. And it's so thin and light for a big knife that it disappears in a pocket--even clipped it didn't pull when I wore it with dress pants this morning while working.

The handle is surprisingly comfy considering how thin it is, though in a full grip I use most of the handle from the flipper down (I have average size hands) so I could see it being a touch small maybe for someone with huge mitts. Comparatively it feels like a bigger handle and is a bit more comfortable than a Benchmade 940 to me when in use.

It's not perfect, of course. Mine arrived quite tight, so tight that while it would flip with the flipper, I couldn't open it with my thumb using the provided hole.

Like any knife-loving freak, I have lots of torx bits though, so no problem, I'll just loosen it up, right? Not so much, the pivot screws are so tight and the screw heads so soft that I immediately stripped one. Now, having stripped one side already I was really careful having a go at the other side--and still stripped it anyway.

After wearing it in some I'm pretty sure they send them out that tight intending for you to really just use the flipper for one handed opening, and I wish I hadn't mangled those screws or messed with it at all now that I've played with it all day.

It flips a lot like the Ken Onion/CRKT Ripple/Eros knives I own. Tough detent and then pow, it snaps out. It's addictive to flip, I flipped it so much that the tip of my finger is sore and I wore a groove in my index fingernail.

My other minor complaint is that the lock is a touch difficult to disengage, but that may wear in and stop being a problem (my experience with some other frame locks that started out that way).

To sum it up: this thing is IMO an insane deal at $75 for anyone that likes thin knives that disappear into a pocket. Sure, it's not titanium and some super steel, but it's strong, thin, light, and really pretty nice. I'm actually surprised I haven't heard more about these--I really like thin, light knives, and this one seems like a no-brainer.

If only the pivot screw heads weren't made from silly putty--I want to get them replaced, but I'm already so fond of this knife that I'm loathe to send it in . . .

Is it wrong to love an 8Cr13MoV blade made in China?
 
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Beautiful knives.

it looks elegant to say the least.

I have to say I dig it.

as for china steel, some are good some are not. Maybe luck.


I picked up a cheap spiderman foldrr for 5 bucks at a tobacco shop to practice sharpening folders, turns out this 440 china steel is very well treated and hold very sharp edge for long periods.

dare I say this steel feels quality. ..
 
As technology advance, quality from the former "junk" nations will increase. 50 years ago, electronics from Japan were considered junk, now their electronics are state of the art. As hard of a pill it is to swallow, but when the proof is in the pudding, you can't deny it. So yeah man, go ahead and love on it.
 
Nice. Thanks for the detailed review and pics. I'm tempted to go get one for myself, except the price is steep for my current budget.
 
Cool, great review. Very tempting to buy now, but AG Russell also sells the Orca, another 8cr13 framelock with a large wide blade and g10 scales. Good to see their offerings are up to par or better than other Chinese manufactured items.
 
Thanks for the pictures and review. I have been waiting for more info on this knife.
 
Woah, I actually didn't notice that this knife was a flipper, now I might actually get it one of these days.
 
"knives from China" is no different than "knives from anywhere else". Build quality depends on the customer. AG Russell always demands the finest.

Also, you aren't giving credit to AG Russell and his in-house team for designing the knife. They designed it. They had it built in China. Phil Gibbs was the head designer for Camillus. Now he works in-house with AG Russell. And AG himself has been designing knives for decades.
 
I saw this knife today on the front cover of their mailer. At first I thought it was titanium... it was a bit of a let down.
It's not really a steal of a deal for stainless handles and 8cr, but I like the design.
 
I have a knife with the 8Cr13Mov steel blade, and it is one of the sharpest blades I own. Nothing special in sharpening it when I first got it, but when done sharpening, it was SHARP!! I have since used it quite a bit and have re-sharpened it twice, and both times, it returned to its previous sharp state. I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to buy another knife with that steel, with the heat treat being similar of course.

Blessings.

Omar
 
I saw this knife today on the front cover of their mailer. At first I thought it was titanium... it was a bit of a let down.
It's not really a steal of a deal for stainless handles and 8cr, but I like the design.

I would agree with you but I'm playing with this 3.4" flipper that is so thin it makes my Benchmade 940 feel big in the pocket by comparison ;)

Seriously, I bought this out of curiosity, not expecting to love it. I've bought expensive knives that I liked a lot less, for one reason or another, and I'm not into chasing super steels. Do I see a difference between the edge retention of my M390 knives over my AUS-8 and VG-10 knives? Sure--but that just means slightly more frequent sharpening, for the most part. Regardless of what this knife is made of, I like it. For times when a thin, light knife would work best I think this one is a winner.
 
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Is it wrong to love an 8Cr13MoV blade made in China?

Why on earth would it be? Kershaw's budget line use 8Cr13MoV and are made in China, same with Spyderco's Tenacious lineup and their Byrd line, and those are all great little knives, with quite a few fans here. Enlan and Sanrenmu are Chinese made with that steel as well, and they too have quite a few people here who like them a lot.
 
dangit...I was really trying to not like that knife .....

And now I want one.

When AG and Phil do something they do it well. Sigh. . . looks like one of those will be coming my way sometime this year.
 
"knives from China" is no different than "knives from anywhere else". Build quality depends on the customer. AG Russell always demands the finest.

Also, you aren't giving credit to AG Russell and his in-house team for designing the knife. They designed it. They had it built in China. Phil Gibbs was the head designer for Camillus. Now he works in-house with AG Russell. And AG himself has been designing knives for decades.

Totally agree. The whole team at AG really does their homework on their Chinese built knives. The slip joints they have made in China are unreal, too.

Plus, they have spectacular customer service. Just a class act through and through.
 
Times change. If you are to automatically look down on a product thinking it's cheap since it's made in China you might be surprised. Pride of ownership is a different story, however.
For example, Chinese flashlights are apparently top of the line with many brands such as Nitecore, Fenix, and etc.
 
Times change. If you are to automatically look down on a product thinking it's cheap since it's made in China you might be surprised.
True that! As with products made anywhere, some are better than others. The discriminating buyer who knows what to look for in the way of Chinese-made knives stands to be amply rewarded.

PS: Nice knife, Greg. I'll have to pick up a small and check it out for myself. :)
 
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