Risking the wrath of the knife god....

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I just GOTTA ask. Other than FANCY knives bought primarily for the artistry, what makes someone pay $200-300 for a regular plain knife that you can get from any sporting goods or hardware store?

I pay ridiculous prices for coins and antique toys, but my blades are pushing "high end" when they exceed $30.00

Nothing against any of the buyers. Just trying to understand the concept.
 
I like owning the best I can afford. I want something that will last my entire life. I like carrying something that is one of the best out there. And I like using something that works sooooo well.

My .02
 
Didn't you just answer your own question when you said that you "pay ridiculous prices for coins and antique toys"? :)
 
Originally posted by AlphalphaPB
Didn't you just answer your own question when you said that you "pay ridiculous prices for coins and antique toys"? :)

Nope, he just created a new question!

Why do you pay so much for coins? You can't use them for anything, plus new coins are cheaper! ;)
 
what makes someone pay $200-300 for a regular plain knife that you can get from any sporting goods or hardware store?

First, we should agree that there are very few regular plain knives, that I can get from any sporting goods, or hardware, that I would have to pay $200-300 for. Most of the time when you are paying this much, or more for a knife there is something uncommon about it. Either the fit, the style, the materials, or the source is significant enough to command a higher market price. If, it appears plain to you, it is because you have not yet acquire an appreciation for the nuance. All of us have felt as you do at some point, and many of us have come to appreciate these knives.

n2s
 
What do you think would happen to the $30 knife if I Come down hard on it with my $350 CS Trail Master...:) (With the back of the blade)
 
Woah...woah...woah...You paid $350 for a CS Trail Master? :eek:

What one is that, the Damascus, engraved, Mamouth Ivory CS Trail Master?
 
Originally posted by PhilL
Woah...woah...woah...You paid $350 for a CS Trail Master? :eek:

What one is that, the Damascus, engraved, Mamouth Ivory CS Trail Master?


It was like $323 for the San Mai III (Laminated Blade).

I have a Carbon V that was like around $125 too.
 
Ahhhhh...I must have missed that one. I was gonna ask you if you wanted to buy a bridge? :D
 
Originally posted by PhilL
Ahhhhh...I must have missed that one. I was gonna ask you if you wanted to buy a bridge? :D


Yeah, I should have clarified which one I was talking about..:)
 
One reason for me has been that some knives I like get discontinued or modified with so called improvements. I'm constantly struggling with the "gotta get it now" complex before its changed in a way I don't like, or not offered anymore. Limited editions, etc.
Even an affordable knife like Marbles; the sheaths have changed, the steel has changed, handle material etc. I don't mind paying for it the way I want it while I can.

Cheers,
Hal
 
Originally posted by Lavan
I just GOTTA ask. Other than FANCY knives bought primarily for the artistry, what makes someone pay $200-300 for a regular plain knife that you can get from any sporting goods or hardware store?

I pay ridiculous prices for coins and antique toys, but my blades are pushing "high end" when they exceed $30.00

Nothing against any of the buyers. Just trying to understand the concept.


The thing to realize is that these are NOT regular plain $30.00 knives. Knives made by good makers will be tougher, sharper, hold an edge longer, better designed, and in general work better than cheap ones.

If you are talking about locking folders, at $30.00 there are few that I would trust for any hard use. The Buck Odessy is usually around that price and is a nice utility knife, but the lock is not that strong. Get a Cold Steel Voyager and compare it to a hardware store knife. Better yet, compare a Buck Strider to one of those $30.00 knives. High quality is important in a folder if you like you fingers.

For fixed blades, aside from neck knives, you will not find many full tang knives with good steel for that price, especially at a hardware store. Even a Buck Special, which is about the only fixed blade I've seen in these stores that I would actually use, is $40.00 at Wal-Mart. It is good for the money but it does not compare to the Cold Steel SRK, for example, as a hard use knife. If you are looking for a survival knife and need something to chop with, you will need a larger knife. You can get one of the Beckers for under $100.00, and the BK7 can be found for around $50.00, but that is still more than $30.00.

When it comes to customs, the quality is generally better and with a full custom you can get a knife made to your specifications. My Rinaldi Warhawk ($240) and LEO (I think it was just under $200) were made to my specifications. Sure they are pricy but the are worth it IMO. I also have several Newt Livesay knives and would put any of the ones designed for utility use (like the Air Assault) against any knife found in a hardware store.

For survival and outdoor use, which is my main reason for fixed blades, my criteria for a good blade is one that will survive whatever I put it through. In extreme situations you need a knife that will not break under hard use. A hardware store knife that may be good for opening boxes just won't cut it. The same thing goes for defensive use. A cheap knife MIGHT work, but a quality knife will work much better and will be less likely to fail.

My suggestion, if you want to start to experience using high quality knives but still stay in your price limit, is to get the Cold Steel Special Projects catalog. Usually they will send a sale flyer around Christmas time with very good deals on factory seconds. Last year I got an SRK which is very sharp and tough for $30.00.
 
Benjamin Liu,

You made alot of good points there and all are true..:D

I use the CS cataloge for gifts (Seconds) that way I know for sure that I am giving good quality knives. :D

About field knives:

When I was in the Marines 1982-86 I went through alot of knives, I used them very hard and learned that quality knives make a big difference. And they are worth every penny you spend on them.
 
Originally posted by Lavan
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I pay ridiculous prices for coins and antique toys, but my blades are pushing "high end" when they exceed $30.00

My suggestion is to stay with in your comfort range on what you pay for anything, heck it's your money. If you don't get "High end" knives, that's okay, most of the people on this planet would think $30 is too much too pay for a knife. I personally don't feel the need to justify to you why I'd be willing to pay the price I have for my knives. I already have a wife. ;)

Besides could you explain to me the attraction of collecting coins or stamps or whatever? It's a personal thing isn't it?

Maybe some day if you go to a knife show or a friend of yours lets you handle a quality knife it'll hit you. Or maybe it won't. Or you may have the need to collect knives and decide early on that you never want to spend more that $30 for a knife. You could probably put together a rather interesting collection, but you're probably not going to just want to count on Wal-mart for your searches.
 
I pay ridiculous prices for coins and antique toys, but my blades are pushing "high end" when they exceed $30.00

At $30, even at $100, you are no where near the state-of-the-art for strength, edge holding, engineering, etc. even for a plain fixed blade, let alone a folder. That's basically the answer. $30 knives break when you start getting a little rough with them. A $200 fixed blade or $350 folder engineered for ruggedness, should not.
 
I don't care much for $50.00 cameras, $30.00 watches, $100.00 DVD players or a $200.00 mountain bike, etc. They do the job, but that is about it. There is no joy in owning products like that. I thoroughly enjoy using a quality product of any kind. If using something that is good enough to get the job done is all you really require, then that's fine. Products like that don't excite me in any way, or leave me with any pride of ownership.

Try using some real high quality knives. If after doing that you still can't understand why people need more than a $30.00 knife then I would come to the conclusion that you really aren't much of a knife nut, but instead someone that considers it to be just another tool. Nothing wrong with that, it's just not where most of the people on this forum are coming from.
 
well, having spent a fair amount of money on knives in the past few months, though a lot less than I would have without the for sale forum, I'll just say this. I spent the money to find out what I liked. Turns out I like my free SS delica the best. I suppose that people buy for many reasons. Many times its been said that a man buys a sports car, even when a station wagon would do, because some people have the money and enjoy the finer things in life. I say its probably some attempt to have something nice in their lives before they drop dead. of course when you WANT to drop dead, what does that really nice knife mean? I dunno, but I bet not too D@mn much. Like I said, my free SS delica does fine. There are a million people who will help you spend your money, and not too many who'll be there when you fall flat on yer @ss. remember that, and buy accordingly.
 
Makes a lot of sense. In the crazy way that collectibles make any sense at all anyhow.

I should have compared it to guns rather than coins and antiques probably. I buy the expensive guns that shoot the same shells as much much cheaper guns but I am buying a pride of ownership. And that's apparently what all of it is about.
 
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