Rough Rider DIY Kits -Update, Photos added

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Does anybody have any experience with the Rough Rider knife kits that you assemble yourself? I'm not concerned with being able to do it, I think I'm fine there; I'm more curious if they are good quality wise like other RR knives, and if there's anything special to be careful of with them. I'm looking at the Laguiole kit on SMKW if anyone's wondering. It looks good, and I like the size, so I figure it would be fun to get and try it out. The firework on the back spring looks pretty nice too!

Its almost too small of a question to post a new thread, but it seemed better than getting lost on the 108th page of the Rough Rider thread.
 
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This may end up in Maintenance and Tinkering, but for now we can try it here.
 
This may end up in Maintenance and Tinkering, but for now we can try it here.

Wherever it needs to go is fine, I just thought it might get more traffic from people who actually have them here.

Yes, I did one of their stockmans. Pretty easy.

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I put my own snake wood scales and even put a swedge on the blades.

Mike

Looks good! I'm going to get one of those after I do the laguiole if everything goes smoothly. Since they're so cheap it won't be a big loss if I mess it up, and since I probably won't mess it up, I'll get a knife that I put together myself!
 
Out of ?????????? are any special tools (like a vice or some sort of clamp for the back spring(s)) needed?
I was thinking of trying one of the kits, too.
 
Out of ?????????? are any special tools (like a vice or some sort of clamp for the back spring(s)) needed?
I was thinking of trying one of the kits, too.

I was planning on making a sort of jig to put in my vice to use for compressing the backspring while holding the knife steady, but I've seen tools made for it. That seems like the only part that would be remotely hard to do.
 
Take a spade bit. Grind the point off. Chuck it in a drill press. Use it to push down on the spring to put the pivot pin through blade. Taper the pivot pin slightly on one end, like a nail. That helps too.
 
Well I ordered the kit, and it got here today, so I went ahead and threw it together. I didn't keep track but I'd say it took me about ten to fifteen minutes. I didn't polish it, stain or finish the wood, or do any serious precision work, I just assembled the knife to see how it does, how I like it, and how I like the pattern in general. I'm already a fan of the toothpick/laguiole/navaja general shape, so I had a feeling I would like it, but at the same time the feel of this knife in particular is surprisingly good!

It came in a nice little box with all the parts looking pretty close to finished, just put it together and you're done. From the looks of this I would have expected a price of more like $25 and not $9.99! The wood scales look pretty similar and were nice enough to me that I decided to just leave them alone and let age and natural oils/sweat do the job of "finishing" them. It also came with an instruction booklet that didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, but also would be very helpful to someone who didn't know how slipjoints fit together.



Quick shot of the tang and back spring, it almost looks like a backlock. This is what makes it such a solid and sharp lockup; I am impressed with how smooth and strong it is for a knife I just put together myself.



Four inch blade, about four and seven eighths long closed. I just held the pieces together for this and the following picture.



The "filework" on the backspring is more like engraving, but to me it looks good for the price, and I like it.



Note- the covers were held on with tiny brass screws that were screwed in from the liner side, then peened flat to look like pins. Is this normal in slipjoint covers? Also it was very soft brass, as every screw stripped out its head as I tightened it, so don't "screw" up!

I went by the book on the assembly, which meant putting in the center pin (is that the proper term?) and the pivot pin first, then putting in the butt-end pin last in the vice. I forgot to photograph my vice setup, but all I had to do was put a scrap of leather in the jaws, clamp it down, and wiggle the pin in while tapping. It worked pretty well for me, no jig needed. (though I did do a bit of a "jig" afterwards when I found out how easy it was!)



Pins trimmed and peened, covers sanded and somewhat smoothed, its a neat little knife! It really does not feel like a four inch bladed knife at all to me, I would have sworn it was smaller if I hadn't measured it. Even in its unfinished-looking state it is a thin, elegant feeling knife that is very nice. I love it!





Comparison for size next to a RR Coke Bottle.



In summary, these knives are well worth the money just like every other Rough Rider knife out there. I did notice however that there was no brand indication anywhere on the knife or packaging. The tang etch says "MI 159 China." It isn't quite as sharp as most Rough Riders from the factory, as it wouldn't shave arm hair, but I'm willing to bet that it wouldn't take more than a pass or two on a strop to get it there. The blade is almost perfectly centered and there is no rub. It snaps open very solidly and stays open with enough force that I'll never worry about pushing it closed with my thumb on the spine. I had a lot of fun putting this together and the experience makes me like the knife even more. If you've been wanting to try out putting together your own traditional pattern knife just for the fun of it, I highly recommend this kit! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Now I need to get one of those stockman kits...
 
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Are these kits made with standard setups, or can you custom design a knife?

For example, I'd like to make a trapper with a wharncliffe and pen blade....
 
I don't think so, but it would be really great if they did. Heck I wish they'd do it for all their knives, and make a standardized blade tang. Then I'd make a folding hunter with a bottle opener/screwdriver secondary.. Or maybe an XL stockman with the spey swapped for the bottle opener/screwdriver.. The possibilities are endless!
 
PLEASE!!!! I can't afford all the different RR's I want now! Don't go adding even more options/choices. :)

I think I'll try one of these kits. should make a fine folding "bird and trout" knife.
 
Since all the screws used to hold the scales/covers on broke off at the head, it may be possible they were designed to break/twist off, so you don't have to file off the heads to clear the blade when the knife is closed?
 
That's pretty slick. I've been thinking of getting the trapper kit but only using the main clip blade for a slim single trapper. Maybe some custom micarta scales too :)
 
Since all the screws used to hold the scales/covers on broke off at the head, it may be possible they were designed to break/twist off, so you don't have to file off the heads to clear the blade when the knife is closed?

My mistake, I meant that the actual "bearing surface" on the head of the screw stripped out; as I applied torque to the screw, instead of the bit camming out, the grooves deformed to the point where the bit could no longer turn the screw. The liners are recessed to allow for the screw heads to sit flush. I really should have taken pictures. One screw stripped out too early, and for it I did have to file it flat. No problem though really.
 
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