Rough Rider Muskrat

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Let me start off this review with a photo of the knife I'm reviewing...
RR127.jpg


Now, my knife is a Rough Rider Muskrat, model 129 (jigged bone handles). The knife shown is the Rough Rider Muskrat, model 127 (smooth white bone handles). The 127 was in the 129 box, and every 129 box in the store has the same knife (127) in it. I'm not sure if there was a switch somewhere, but I can't seem to find the jigged bone handles (129) anywhere; not even in the 127 boxes.
So anyway, here we go...

Rough Rider knives are made in China, and they've been talked about a bit on here; mostly good. For the price ($8) the Muskrat, and all other Rough Riders that I have, have had great fit and finish and are well-constructed. They all came out of the box very sharp with no flaws. They even look just as nice as the Bokers or Cases that they are clones of. But here's the details of the Muskrat.

Handle Details: The Muskrat is 3-7/8" closed and 1/2" thick. It has nickel silver bolsters, one on each end, and smooth bone scales (read the above). The scales are indeed very smooth, and mine are a very light amber color, almost transparent off-white. They are secured to the handle frame with three brass pins, and there are no cracks or rough spots; not even around the pins. The Muskrat, true to its past, has no lock; it's a slipjoint. Both blades stay open without play thanks to the stiff backsprings, which aren't so strong as to require a hard pull. The liners are brass. There is no shield on this one (I prefer that) but you can get Rough Rider Muskrats with a shield if you prefer.
Using either blade was comfortable, and the handle isn't too long nor too short; it's just right.

Blades Details: Being a Muskrat, the Rough Rider has two identical "Turkish" clip point blades. They're the same exact blade, just at opposite ends of the handle, so I'll describe them as if there were only one blade. The blades are 3" long with a 2-1/2" edge, and are 3/32" thick. They both came razor sharp, and are made out of "440 razor sharp steel" which to my knowledge is really 8Cr12MoV (I heard this from a dealer who spoke with the Rough Rider factory). Why it's called "440" is beyond me. It takes a wicked edge and holds it nicely for an $8 knife, but is nothing to brag about. It's close to the steel used in the Spyderco Tenacious (8Cr13MoV) or Kershaw's 440A. Lock-up, if you can call it that since it's a slipjoint, is perfect on both blades. No wiggle or play and the blades don't want to "fall" closed
One blade is marked as follows: the Rough Rider logo stamped into the tang on the left side, and 440 over razor sharp over steel on the right tang; CHINA lasered on the right side of the blade and "ALWAYS READY!" lasered on the left side of the blade. The other blade is void of any markings.
Overall, the blades are great.

This would make a nice, inexpensive user or a "gentleman's knife" for those of us who can't afford to spend $80 on a gentleman's knife that we won't take out of the house much. The only thing I don't like about the Muskrat doesn't have anything to do with Rough Rider since all Muskrats have this feature, but there's no way to attach a lanyard to it. My pockets tend to lose knives if they aren't clipped on or tied to a belt loop with a lanyrd, and I feel that this will happen with the Muskrat as well. I will probably end up buying a belt sheath for it though. If you still haven't given the Rough Rider brand a try, go for it; I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Great fit and finish, nice looks, super low price, and blades that come razor sharp. Cool :thumbup:
 
Thanks for your review. Muskrat is one of the few Traditional patterns I have yet to own,probably because the conventional 'Rat' has those 2 identical clip blades .There is another version called Hawbaker that has a Wharncliffe blade instead of the second Clip. This attracts me,but finding one is tricky. Rough Rider certainly don't do them,yet.

My experience with RR knives has been positive generally,they certainly seem to be improving as well.They are not just good knives for the money, but they are good knives. Well made,very good finish and a big choice at low prices. a very good marque for trying out a pattern to see if you fancy it or not. Their recent line, Old Yellow is a yellow delrin handled range with a very nice union shield. The Gunstock, Doctor and Sodbuster I have in this range are all very well made pocket knives in the traditional style. None of them have gaps,even a hint of blade wobble or rough spots or edges. The steel is sharp out of the box and it's a very nice knife to use or get hold of. Exceptional value I have to say and I have a lot of slipjoints from more famous makers to compare them with.

You regret the lack of a lanyard hole, but, I'm afraid that's the thing with Traditional slipjoints they don't have them. Some lockbacks do, the Scout knife has a bail to tie things to but that's about it.
 
Those 2 identical clip blades.

I do not know on the RR knives, but...

On more expensive Muskrats the blades are not the same.
They are both clip blades.
But because the knife is serpentine (S shaped), the main blade is cranked earlier on the spine and is thinner, the second blade is cranked later and is wider.

What this does is, it allows for both blade sit very low next to the bolsters within the S shape.

So you have a much thinner blade and a more robust blade
You then sharpen them differently, the thinner at a finer angle so it slices finely, and the heavier blade at a more acute angle for a tougher edge.
 
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Those 2 identical clip blades.

I do not know on the RR knives, but...

On more expensive Muskrats the blades are not the same.
They are both clip blades.
But because the knife is serpentine (S shaped), the main blade is cranked earlier on the spine and is thinner, the second blade is cranked later and is wider.

What this does is, it allows for both blade sit very low next to the bolsters within the S shape.

So you have a much thinner blade and a more robust blade
You then sharpen them differently, the thinner at a finer angle so it slices finely, and the heavier blade at a more acute angle for a tougher edge.

I didn't know this, thanks for the info :thumbup:
 
Hi,

I didn't know that about the blades either neeman. Thank you for that information!

I too like RR's and own a handful of them. I've been able to try some new to me patterns without having to spend much money to do so. And I've gotten good user knives every time.

dalee
 
Thanks for your review. Muskrat is one of the few Traditional patterns I have yet to own,probably because the conventional 'Rat' has those 2 identical clip blades .There is another version called Hawbaker that has a Wharncliffe blade instead of the second Clip. This attracts me,but finding one is tricky. Rough Rider certainly don't do them,yet.

There's a third variety- Queen's Special Muskrat. It's a long spey and Turkish clip.
 
Interesting, spey on a Muskrat?

Is this a Yankee Muskrat then? Heard of them but don't know exactly what they are.
 
Let me start off this review with a photo of the knife I'm reviewing...
RR127.jpg


Now, my knife is a Rough Rider Muskrat, model 129 (jigged bone handles). The knife shown is the Rough Rider Muskrat, model 127 (smooth white bone handles). The 127 was in the 129 box, and every 129 box in the store has the same knife (127) in it. I'm not sure if there was a switch somewhere, but I can't seem to find the jigged bone handles (129) anywhere; not even in the 127 boxes.
So anyway, here we go...

Rough Rider knives are made in China, and they've been talked about a bit on here; mostly good. For the price ($8) the Muskrat, and all other Rough Riders that I have, have had great fit and finish and are well-constructed. They all came out of the box very sharp with no flaws. They even look just as nice as the Bokers or Cases that they are clones of. But here's the details of the Muskrat.

Handle Details: The Muskrat is 3-7/8" closed and 1/2" thick. It has nickel silver bolsters, one on each end, and smooth bone scales (read the above). The scales are indeed very smooth, and mine are a very light amber color, almost transparent off-white. They are secured to the handle frame with three brass pins, and there are no cracks or rough spots; not even around the pins. The Muskrat, true to its past, has no lock; it's a slipjoint. Both blades stay open without play thanks to the stiff backsprings, which aren't so strong as to require a hard pull. The liners are brass. There is no shield on this one (I prefer that) but you can get Rough Rider Muskrats with a shield if you prefer.
Using either blade was comfortable, and the handle isn't too long nor too short; it's just right.

Blades Details: Being a Muskrat, the Rough Rider has two identical "Turkish" clip point blades. They're the same exact blade, just at opposite ends of the handle, so I'll describe them as if there were only one blade. The blades are 3" long with a 2-1/2" edge, and are 3/32" thick. They both came razor sharp, and are made out of "440 razor sharp steel" which to my knowledge is really 8Cr12MoV (I heard this from a dealer who spoke with the Rough Rider factory). Why it's called "440" is beyond me. It takes a wicked edge and holds it nicely for an $8 knife, but is nothing to brag about. It's close to the steel used in the Spyderco Tenacious (8Cr13MoV) or Kershaw's 440A. Lock-up, if you can call it that since it's a slipjoint, is perfect on both blades. No wiggle or play and the blades don't want to "fall" closed
One blade is marked as follows: the Rough Rider logo stamped into the tang on the left side, and 440 over razor sharp over steel on the right tang; CHINA lasered on the right side of the blade and "ALWAYS READY!" lasered on the left side of the blade. The other blade is void of any markings.
Overall, the blades are great.

This would make a nice, inexpensive user or a "gentleman's knife" for those of us who can't afford to spend $80 on a gentleman's knife that we won't take out of the house much. The only thing I don't like about the Muskrat doesn't have anything to do with Rough Rider since all Muskrats have this feature, but there's no way to attach a lanyard to it. My pockets tend to lose knives if they aren't clipped on or tied to a belt loop with a lanyrd, and I feel that this will happen with the Muskrat as well. I will probably end up buying a belt sheath for it though. If you still haven't given the Rough Rider brand a try, go for it; I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Great fit and finish, nice looks, super low price, and blades that come razor sharp. Cool :thumbup:
i would suggest get one of their knives that has both blades on one end and drill your own lanyard hole. if you have a good drill and a good bit it might only take mere seconds to correct the issue.
 
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