rough rider / schrade ?

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aardy

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are these made by the same chinese company ,,cos it looks like the same work to me ..also was rough rider an american company as schrade was ,
cant find much history on them .
thanks for help ...:)
 
I don't know for sure, but I doubt it. I have a couple of Rough Riders and one Schrade, plus I've handled several other new Schrades, and the Rough Riders seemed like much better knives.
 
the rough rider butterbean i have is easy as well made as the case butterbean ,, will add a pic when i learn how ..
thanks for the info anyway..
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aardy said:
are these made by the same chinese company ,,cos it looks like the same work to me ..also was rough rider an american company as schrade was ,
cant find much history on them .
thanks for help ...:)
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It's possible that current Schrades contracted by Taylor Cutlery under the Schrade name could be made in the same factory in China as Rough Riders are, many imports seem to be.

Rough Rider was never an American manufacturer, it is a brand name that knives are contracted from China under.
 
Rough Rider was never an American manufacturer, it is a brand name that knives are contracted from China under.
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As such, I prefer to but RR over Chinese made Schrades, although I'd say (from my limited experience) that they're fairly close in quality. I'd rather buy something that always was Chinese, than to buy something that was USA, and then went to the Chinese. Personal preference.
 
I think RR was created by Kevin Pipes of Smoky Mountain Knife Works as a brand for re-introducing older traditional patterns. Kind of the same thing with Steel Warrior too.

thx - cpr
 
thanks for the info guys ,, i'm glad that the Rough Rider is an original company . i prefer the fact that its not a re-brand name .
they are certanly good quality,i am impressed..
im sure RR will allways do well if the QC stays as it is .:cool:
 
I saw a new one this weekend at a flea market, it was a Taylor/Schrade Old Timer Stockman, but had the name "Barking Dog" on it.

Quality was fairly good on the one they had.
 
I have Case knives and USA Schrades in my collection but for an everyday knife woul you say the Taylor Chinese Scrades or the Rough Riders would be of better quality?
 
the rough rider butterbean i have is easy as well made as the case butterbean
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A lot of folks don't believe this, but I have had a couple RRiders that not only rivaled some new Case I have seen, but topped them in a couple areas of fit and finish. The steels between RR and Case SS are exactly the same IMO.

Thanks for that thought fellows;
I never thought of it that way, but I think the reason RR being china made doesn't bother me is that, it is, its own company; Making its own name, not someone trading of an existing brands fame.

G.
 
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I never thought of it that way, but I think the reason RR being china made doesn't bother me is that, it is, its own company; Making its own name, not someone trading of an existing brands fame.
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A name is just a collection of letters arranged in a specific way. Has nothing to do with the product the name carries or the patch of dirt the product was made on.
 
Don't know if they are the same or not but they are an excellent buy for the money! Ive heard people mention the Marbles line is also very similar to the rough riders. I suppose they could be produced by the same facility.
There really arent many traditionals that are affordable to your average 12 year old boy (limited funds and antsy:)), my son has a RR Canoe, Baby Sunfish and A fancy Lockback, all are excellent knives and help to get budding knife nuts started in the right direction;) Actually i wouldnt have a problem recommending them to anybody needing a decent traditional knife that is on a tight budget. Havent handled the schrades but My son and i have been really happy with the RR so far!
i gotta stop thinking about canoes, or i'll do something stupid:D
cheers
ivan
 
shecky said:
A name is just a collection of letters arranged in a specific way. Has nothing to do with the product the name carries or the patch of dirt the product was made on.
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Yes, but there is more honesty in using your own name, not someone elses.
RR is gaining their own reputation, not trading on someone elses.
 
Some of us ordered some seconds from Rough Rider and a few of us got some Chinese Remingtons with our order. I would say, that it looks like Remington and the Rough Rider are from the same factory.
 
No, not dishonest realy.. OK honesty was probably the wrong word for what I mean. Not exactly... but...

I'm not realy disagreeing, but I can't put it into words either, I can't figure how to say what I mean, so I'll agree to slightly disagree and leave it at that... :)

G.
 
I think that what Ice Tigre is trying to say is that modern companies who have purchased the "rights" to a name or trademark are trading on the past glory and quality associated with the marks which are now produced in an entirely different manner and location, with different tooling (oftentimes) and with (frequently) lesser materials and craftsmanship.

People who associate the name with its past level of quality and workmanship are apt to find after purchasing such products that they don't live up to the name.

So, if I read Tigre correctly, he's simply saying it's more honest for these companies to use names such as RR, Steel Warrior etc which do not trade upon a former legendary name and can stand on their own merits (both good and bad).

If I'm wrong, Ice Tigre, I apologize for trying to advocate on your behalf.
 
Blues,

Keep us posted on the experiments with the RR. I would be really tempted if RR or SW offered some of their patterns in carbon.

God Bless.
 
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