Round Eye Hobbit

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This is one of the few knives I have left out of what was once a pretty nice collection. Purchased new at a gun and knife show back in the early to mid 1990's, there does not appear to be much information available about this knife. The gentleman I went to the show with was specifically looking for this knife, not sure why he was so interested in it, we bought the only 2 the dealer had left. I noticed there is a round eye forum but it was not accepting postings, anyone have any information?:confused:
 
I remember those. They're relatively high-end production folders, along the lines of Benchmade etc., and were popular at the time. I don't know why the company stopped producing, but they're nice knives. I missed out at the time, and wish I had one. The same company (REKAT) also produced the Sifu, a real behemoth of a folder, and another I wish I had snatched up back in the day.
 
I have the warrior, fang, and pocket hobbit, the company folded near the beginning of the decade.

all have ats34 blades, though I believe the fang had a 1095 variant. the fixed blade has a rubber handle and aluminum pommel.
 
Round Eye produced the rolling lock, the forerunner to the Benchmade Axis. Some really nice designs but I assume lacked the financial assets to refine and produce the product at a profitable level. The Sifu was an awesome knife that was a bit ahead of its time. The Hobbit was a whole different beast.
 
all have ats34 blades, though I believe the fang had a 1095 variant. the fixed blade has a rubber handle and aluminum pommel.
The Hobbit Fang did indeed have a 1095 variant. The "eye" was on the opposite side of the blade from the stainless version. Seems like there was a different blade style for that knife, too, but my memory isn't serving me too well on that one.
btw, the one I'm talking about was a small fixed blade neck knife with skeletonized handle, not the bigger knife with the Persian blade and teeth on the spine(is that the Warrior you're referring to with the al pommel?).
 
yep, the warrior. I've seen some sort of SF ltd version with a coated blade as well.
 
Round Eye produced the rolling lock, the forerunner to the Benchmade Axis. Some really nice designs but I assume lacked the financial assets to refine and produce the product at a profitable level. The Sifu was an awesome knife that was a bit ahead of its time. The Hobbit was a whole different beast.

the rolling lock has absolutley nothing to do with the axis lock, totally different designs and have nothing to do with one another.

dont even get me started on sifus, they were famous for having lock probs due imho to the inertia from the big long blade (most of the smaller knives didnt seem to have as many probs), i have had 3 or maybe even 4 sifus and 2 or 3 had lock issues, one messed up that i had really babied ie no inertia opening/etc. at least on the sifu the rolling lock was a huge turd, i still have a scar on my hand from a sifu closing up on me. i used to love them till all the probs, dont believe me?? look at my user name lol. after i got rid of the sifus i got a cammilus maxx and it was imho 5X the knife a sifu was if for no other reason than it would reliably lock open lol.

the owners of the company also were not the most pleasant folks i've ever dealt with, look in the old forum and see for yourself what i am speaking of.

imho problems with the rolling lock played a significant role in there demise.

the pocket hobbit didnt seem to have the probs the sifu did, but there were probably lots more sifus around vs hobbits, if i owned a rekat (i do not and have no desire to FWIW) i would consider it a collector item (not a user) and be a little gentle with it (ie no inertia opening for sure) as if ya do have lock probs no one works on them i am aware of. this goes for all rekats not just sifus.

i promise ya a sifu with hard use (ie inertia opening, or really even opening it with a little vigor) will have lock probs sooner or later and probably sooner. do a search and look at a schematic of the lock, it sure opened my eyes.

the fixed blades were ok i suppose.
 
the rolling lock has absolutley nothing to do with the axis lock, totally different designs and have nothing to do with one another.

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Well Benchmade most likely purchased the rolling lock design from Round Eye, but I've heard they also bought the axis design. Where did the axis design come from?
 
The Axis lock is from Bill McHenry and Jason Williams. The Benchmade 710's proper name was originally something like "the McHenry and Williams Axis lock".
 
thats correct owenM.

the BM rolling lock is really quite a bit different than the rekat version.

but, again, the axis and rolling lock are totally different animals.

ya'll will have to excuse me i still get pissed everytime i think of rekat, they were without a doubt the rudest folks i have ever dealt with in the knife industry, bar none, after ~7 yrs i still get angry lol, the "lock of the 21st century" my rear end. that they went outta 'biz was a great loss to the planet earth, let me tell ya............lol.
 
Hehe, well just don't get mad at us noobs, we're just trying to get it all straight. I've never even held either lock in my hands.

A lot of people mistake the spyderco ball-lock and axis as the same too, even though they work differently.
 
Bob Taylor aka "The Hobbit From Hell"; I met him a few times and he is quite the character with his high octane attitude. I believe I saw an interview with him that was conducted by Kelly Worden a couple of years ago. It may be posted on Kelly's site. He had a quieter partner named Bob as well (I forget his last name) who I found to be a very pleasent person to talk with.

Here's a link to the "Warrior" that started it all and will give you some more info into the whole Rekat Bob Taylor story. http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/HobbitWarrior.asp

My purchase of a Hobbit Warrior (explained in the article) was my introduction to tactical knives and training. The specific model I have has a dull green colored titanium nitride coated blade. I also have one of the Al Mar Warriors with a black blade.

I purchased both a Folding Hobbit and a Sifu when they became available. The spring on the Folding Hobbit just couldn't stand up to the stress of full force kinetic openings and I had to replace the one in mine. Bob sent the spring to me for no charge. It was shaped something like the Treble Cleff symbol found on a music sheet or perhaps the "&" symbol on a keyboard. It didn't seem much thicker than a coarse human hair. The knife eventually developed an abnormal amount of vertical blade play and I got rid of it.

The Sifu was a giant of a folder and was even less reliable, fortunately the scars healed. Leverage was indeed the enemy of this big knife. From out of the box the slightest bit of pressure on the tip would cause it to fold. However if you went to the back third of the blade you could beat it on a desk all day and it would stay firm.

Bob told me that his company, Round Eye Knife and Tool (REKAT) started after having contracted with a Japanese firm to produce the Warrior. He said that not only did they alter the specs and materials of his design but that they then pirated it and started selling them apart from his contract. So he started his own company, Round Eye. Bob is not what you would call a politically correct person and I have a certain sneaking admiration for him because of it.

One year at the Eugene show he had a poster with pictures of the latest REKAT models around the border, but the most striking feature was a hot raven haired young woman in a rather skimpy bondage outfit her hands tied over her head holding two Hobbit Warriors. This picture scandalized many of the women at the knife show, but he told me that the woman in the picture was actually his wife and that the concept and execution were her ideas! I politely declined the poster at the time, but now...

While REKAT produced some very interesting knives (anybody remember the Escalator?) there seemed to be a certain instability about pretty much every aspect of the company and this, imho, led to it's demise.

C'est la vie.
 
bram frank designed the escalator, he's no big fan of rekat either, do a search.

never spoke with bob taylor, did speak with bob brothers though, wanna guess how it went lol??

IIRC taylor was a designer/owner and brothers was the owner/manager, brothers was the one ya had to deal with for warranty stuff though.
 
I had an escalator, really didn't have anywhere near the finesse in design and construction the gunting did. Still, kinda wish I had held on to it. There's a trainer version for 300 bucks on the bay, geez.
 
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