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Does anyone have one? Do you think it is a good rifle
and what is a good pice to pay for one.
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and what is a good pice to pay for one.
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Ruger Mini 14
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Cougar Allen
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That about says it: it's reliable but not accurate. It's possible to make it accurate but it'll about double the cost (you have to replace the barrel).
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I've owned two of them. The first was an early model with a completely wooden stock; the second one had a plastic top fore-end piece. The usual claim about 'spotty accuracy' is primarily true.
If you use factory ammunition and use it to hunt coyotes and other varmints, it's great as it is. The newer ones even have scope attachments built right into the receiver, and the rings come for free.
However, like all firearms, if you play with it, trying different brands of factory loads and handloads, it's just like any other rifle. There are some companies that replace the barrel with one of those thicker varmint barrels and clean up the fit between the barrel and the action (concentricity).
These rifles shoot better than you do, so to speak.
I bought out all of the .22 cenrefire bullets that a bankrupt sporting goods store had on the shelf. I could always find one (or five) that could out-shoot all of my friends. It just takes a little work on the reloading bench.
Now, I also hear that 'automatics are less accurate' than turn bolts. To that, I have a flat-top, heavy barrel, AR-15 (with a load I researched) that makes most of my friends cry. Or try to buy.
If you use factory ammunition and use it to hunt coyotes and other varmints, it's great as it is. The newer ones even have scope attachments built right into the receiver, and the rings come for free.
However, like all firearms, if you play with it, trying different brands of factory loads and handloads, it's just like any other rifle. There are some companies that replace the barrel with one of those thicker varmint barrels and clean up the fit between the barrel and the action (concentricity).
These rifles shoot better than you do, so to speak.
I bought out all of the .22 cenrefire bullets that a bankrupt sporting goods store had on the shelf. I could always find one (or five) that could out-shoot all of my friends. It just takes a little work on the reloading bench.
Now, I also hear that 'automatics are less accurate' than turn bolts. To that, I have a flat-top, heavy barrel, AR-15 (with a load I researched) that makes most of my friends cry. Or try to buy.
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I have an AR W/carry handle and 20" barrel and it is accurate.
But that is not what I should expect of a mini 14. What I had in
mind is to put it into a bullpup kit. I did it with a .22 and it's
a fun gun to shoot and accurate at semi close quarters. I thought that if I can find a mini 14 I could make one in .223.
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I have an AR W/carry handle and 20" barrel and it is accurate.
But that is not what I should expect of a mini 14. What I had in
mind is to put it into a bullpup kit. I did it with a .22 and it's
a fun gun to shoot and accurate at semi close quarters. I thought that if I can find a mini 14 I could make one in .223.
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I have a stainless Ranch model with the stock synthetic stock. Is it as accurate as my departed M77 bolt gun with glass and a bi-pod? No. Is it as easy to clean as my departed MAK-90? No. Is it fun at the range and reliable? Absolutely.
One day I'll probably buy a scope for it and find out how accurate it is or is not, but for now I mostly use it for plinking and to keep around for home defence should we ever experience more civil unrest like the Rodney King riots.
For my uses, it's a great gun. Like most Rugers, it's competent and reliable, but there are probably better options for any specific task. An M4 carbine is probably a better home defence weapon, and a bolt gun is surely a better long range precision target gun. But a Mini 14 is lots of fun in my book.
YMMV.
jmx
One day I'll probably buy a scope for it and find out how accurate it is or is not, but for now I mostly use it for plinking and to keep around for home defence should we ever experience more civil unrest like the Rodney King riots.
For my uses, it's a great gun. Like most Rugers, it's competent and reliable, but there are probably better options for any specific task. An M4 carbine is probably a better home defence weapon, and a bolt gun is surely a better long range precision target gun. But a Mini 14 is lots of fun in my book.
YMMV.
jmx
i have a mini14 bought new in 1978, found the rec'pt a while back, paid $180 plus tax for it, a deal for sure. it is a 181 seies w/a all wood stock, though i have replaced the top bbl cover w/a ruger plastic one, and have a lyman rear sight on mine (i dont think they still make this, when i installed about 5 yrs ago it was hard to find, but it really helped accuracy, its a smaller aperture replacement blade.)
after getting broke in, it rarely malfunctions now. i have several old 20 and 30 round ruger brand mags, bought them a lond time ago, cheap ($20-40 each), and several off brand mags, all work well in the gun. accuracy isnt so great, but it is accepatable. a long time ago had a scope mounted on it ( weaver 2X-6X IIRC) and used to hit a 18" gong at 300 yds regularly, pretty hard w/iron sights though, a lot easier w/my M4.
have had a lot of fun w/that old gun, my first "sturmgewher" (spelling?) and all in all must say i am happy w/it, the only negative in my book is they are pretty high now, accuracy isnt the best, mags are VERY high ($75 and up)and i dont think the wide array of accesorize once avalable still are. imho a AR or AK is a lot better gun, for about the same $$, but the mini's are certainly at least "OK" in MHO, but the AR15 and AKM is really a lot better rifle, also. better accuracy, more neat stuff to buy,and my AKM is MORE accuarate than my mini! so while its ok, for the $$, i would much rather have a AR/AKM myself
get one if ya want, they will only get higher imho, but ya should also at least think about the AR/AKM's imho.
greg
after getting broke in, it rarely malfunctions now. i have several old 20 and 30 round ruger brand mags, bought them a lond time ago, cheap ($20-40 each), and several off brand mags, all work well in the gun. accuracy isnt so great, but it is accepatable. a long time ago had a scope mounted on it ( weaver 2X-6X IIRC) and used to hit a 18" gong at 300 yds regularly, pretty hard w/iron sights though, a lot easier w/my M4.
have had a lot of fun w/that old gun, my first "sturmgewher" (spelling?) and all in all must say i am happy w/it, the only negative in my book is they are pretty high now, accuracy isnt the best, mags are VERY high ($75 and up)and i dont think the wide array of accesorize once avalable still are. imho a AR or AK is a lot better gun, for about the same $$, but the mini's are certainly at least "OK" in MHO, but the AR15 and AKM is really a lot better rifle, also. better accuracy, more neat stuff to buy,and my AKM is MORE accuarate than my mini! so while its ok, for the $$, i would much rather have a AR/AKM myself
get one if ya want, they will only get higher imho, but ya should also at least think about the AR/AKM's imho.
greg
I dont personally own one but, I have two good friends who do. One guy is a cop and he loves his because he can get the hi-cap mags and doesn't like having a potentially illegal weapon (AR-15). My other buddy is just an average guy, not a cop and he hates his gun. They both have the ranch model in .223.
My friend (the citizen) has searched quite a bit looking for higher capacity mags and has had a VERY hard time finding any that will work (some will reluctantly fit in the mag well, but not come out too easily, some wont even fit in at allnot to mention that the factory mag release is the same style as the 10/22 which means pretty slow -and to the novice, confusing- mag changes, or the need to buy yet another aftermarket part for you gun). Since we live in California, my citizen friend cant even look at hi-caps, and even those 10 round ones that dont fit well have to be after market.
This is due to the fact that Ruger was trying so hard to make their gun not look like an assault rifle. The only factory mags that can be found are five round mags, and that gets really tiresome (these mags are still like $20 a piece).
As far as accuracy goes, my LEO buddy will put a 30 round mag in and hit a 18 steal plate at about 100 yards (open sites) for about 7or 8 shots (shooting about 1 round a second) and then he will miss the plate by as much as three feet until he stops to let the barrel cool down (another reason why Ruger only makes 5 round instead of 10 round mags).
This would really piss me off as it seems that Ruger has so complied with the anti-gunners that they have built into their gun the inability for it to be used as a practical self-defense weapon. I hear you can get a heaver barrel, and if you live in a more American state, hi-caps too (that might work), but then youve spent so much cash that you could have just bought a decent AR (if you live in a better state) or a M1-A (if you live in California).
One positive thing I will say about the mini is its lack of recoil, it is about half that of any other .223 I have shot (and that is already a pretty tame caliber). I should add that the mini-14 could be a good gun if you are varmint hunting or in a similar situation where you dont mind having a good amount of time between shots and/or not too many shots in a short amount of time, but if that is the case, I would rather have a bolt action .22-250 anyway.
I say that if you live in a commie state (like CA) see if you can get a SKS into your bullpup stock. It may not have the accuracy of the first 6-8 shots of the mini-14, but it will do better on the following ones (unless you want to wait 5-10 minutes for your barrel to cool off). You will save your self a good amount of cash on the gun, a ton of cash on the ammo, and a good amount of frustration that would come from having a leftist-influenced firearm.
My friend (the citizen) has searched quite a bit looking for higher capacity mags and has had a VERY hard time finding any that will work (some will reluctantly fit in the mag well, but not come out too easily, some wont even fit in at allnot to mention that the factory mag release is the same style as the 10/22 which means pretty slow -and to the novice, confusing- mag changes, or the need to buy yet another aftermarket part for you gun). Since we live in California, my citizen friend cant even look at hi-caps, and even those 10 round ones that dont fit well have to be after market.
This is due to the fact that Ruger was trying so hard to make their gun not look like an assault rifle. The only factory mags that can be found are five round mags, and that gets really tiresome (these mags are still like $20 a piece).
As far as accuracy goes, my LEO buddy will put a 30 round mag in and hit a 18 steal plate at about 100 yards (open sites) for about 7or 8 shots (shooting about 1 round a second) and then he will miss the plate by as much as three feet until he stops to let the barrel cool down (another reason why Ruger only makes 5 round instead of 10 round mags).
This would really piss me off as it seems that Ruger has so complied with the anti-gunners that they have built into their gun the inability for it to be used as a practical self-defense weapon. I hear you can get a heaver barrel, and if you live in a more American state, hi-caps too (that might work), but then youve spent so much cash that you could have just bought a decent AR (if you live in a better state) or a M1-A (if you live in California).
One positive thing I will say about the mini is its lack of recoil, it is about half that of any other .223 I have shot (and that is already a pretty tame caliber). I should add that the mini-14 could be a good gun if you are varmint hunting or in a similar situation where you dont mind having a good amount of time between shots and/or not too many shots in a short amount of time, but if that is the case, I would rather have a bolt action .22-250 anyway.
I say that if you live in a commie state (like CA) see if you can get a SKS into your bullpup stock. It may not have the accuracy of the first 6-8 shots of the mini-14, but it will do better on the following ones (unless you want to wait 5-10 minutes for your barrel to cool off). You will save your self a good amount of cash on the gun, a ton of cash on the ammo, and a good amount of frustration that would come from having a leftist-influenced firearm.
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Why the harping on Mini14 accuracy? It is a lightweight carbine with a flyrod barrel. I would hold that it is more "accurate" than most people need. It is not on par with a custom AR HBAR, but it is 1/2 the weight and 1/6 the price. I have seen the "accurized" Minis, but sinking that kind of cash into it doesnt make sense.
As a defense gun the Mini is perfectly fine and to compare it to a M4 is comparing apples and oranges. The average person would be far better served with a $400 used mini and $2,000 of training and practice ammo than a $2400 M4orgery.
It is not up to sustained rapid fire, of which there is little or no need in a civilian or police utility rifle. The fact that it cannot do something that it isnt built to do is not a negative.
As a defense gun the Mini is perfectly fine and to compare it to a M4 is comparing apples and oranges. The average person would be far better served with a $400 used mini and $2,000 of training and practice ammo than a $2400 M4orgery.
It is not up to sustained rapid fire, of which there is little or no need in a civilian or police utility rifle. The fact that it cannot do something that it isnt built to do is not a negative.
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I submit that a Mini-14 and 200$ worth of training is better than a 2400$ sniper rifle and an annual trip to the range...
I have one and love it. It usually sports my cheapest scope and I can hit the target routinely at 100 yds with scope (bench rest)-- I guess that says I shoot it with the scope as well or better than the LEO does with open sights.... heh, heh -- I'll keep the scope on. My Boy Scouts all get to shoot it after they qualify for the Merit Badge on a .22LR bolt action with open sights. But I can assure you they all recommend the AR-15 -- not due to accuracy as you might guess.
This is a great gun and the .223 ammo is widely available. It is even suitable for Texas Hill Country deer (German Shepherds with horns). But not for those long shots. It is light and rugged. The aftermarket 10- and hi-cap clips occassionally give me a hard time.
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W.S. DeWeese,
There are always gun nuts who try to wring every minute of accuracy out of any firearm; sadly, I'm one of them.
I don't care if a firearm was free or worth several grand, after a shake-down cruise to the target range, the weapon gets detail stripped for a thorough cleaning, and then the research begins!
Sometimes, the first handload works. Sometimes, it takes years, and that's really fun.
What's even more fun is having someone come down to the gun room and ask, "Which guns fire cloverleafs?" and then answering, "They all do."
I am getting a bit more forgiving on the combat firearms. If they can fire a cloverleaf ONCE, cycle handloads and reliably feed Golden Sabers, I let it slide.
There are always gun nuts who try to wring every minute of accuracy out of any firearm; sadly, I'm one of them.
I don't care if a firearm was free or worth several grand, after a shake-down cruise to the target range, the weapon gets detail stripped for a thorough cleaning, and then the research begins!
Sometimes, the first handload works. Sometimes, it takes years, and that's really fun.
What's even more fun is having someone come down to the gun room and ask, "Which guns fire cloverleafs?" and then answering, "They all do."
I am getting a bit more forgiving on the combat firearms. If they can fire a cloverleaf ONCE, cycle handloads and reliably feed Golden Sabers, I let it slide.
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As a defense gun the Mini is perfectly fine and to compare it to a M4 is comparing apples and oranges. The average person would be far better served with a $400 used mini and $2,000 of training and practice ammo than a $2400 M4orgery
It is not up to sustained rapid fire, of which there is little or no need in a civilian or police utility rifle.
Maybe I am just a freak but I think it is fun to see the limits of the guns accuracy, and if the thing is off after just a few shots, that would be really annoying. Moreover, I disagree with you that such a feature would not be detrimental for its use in a self defense, do you have any SD pistols with more than a 5 shot capacity?
Not sure if you are replying to my above comment or not, but if you are I feel the need to point something out. First, I was not comparing a stock mini-14 to a M4, I was comparing the money put into a mini-14 to get it to function reliably and accurately given its use if intended as a defensive weapon (I think almost everyone has the defensive capabilities of a firearm in mind when they consider buying something like the mini-14), with that of a basic M1-A (a much better defensive weapon and even a more versatile hunting firearmin my opinion).
I think that the mini-14 is a pretty fun gun to shoot, but I was trying to point out some of its shortcoming that one typically doesnt pick up on without actually handling and shooting the gun for a bit. I guarantee you that if my friend knew half of the negatives of the mini-14 before he bought it, he would never had looked at it twice. I am just trying to save someone from similar frustration.
The fact that it cannot do something that it isnt built to do is not a negative.
You are right here, but the problem is that this gun doesnt come with any statements as to its intended use. One is left to speculate as to what such a product could be used for. I was simply pointing out its limitations.
As a defense gun the Mini is perfectly fine and to compare it to a M4 is comparing apples and oranges. The average person would be far better served with a $400 used mini and $2,000 of training and practice ammo than a $2400 M4orgery
It is not up to sustained rapid fire, of which there is little or no need in a civilian or police utility rifle.
Maybe I am just a freak but I think it is fun to see the limits of the guns accuracy, and if the thing is off after just a few shots, that would be really annoying. Moreover, I disagree with you that such a feature would not be detrimental for its use in a self defense, do you have any SD pistols with more than a 5 shot capacity?
Not sure if you are replying to my above comment or not, but if you are I feel the need to point something out. First, I was not comparing a stock mini-14 to a M4, I was comparing the money put into a mini-14 to get it to function reliably and accurately given its use if intended as a defensive weapon (I think almost everyone has the defensive capabilities of a firearm in mind when they consider buying something like the mini-14), with that of a basic M1-A (a much better defensive weapon and even a more versatile hunting firearmin my opinion).
I think that the mini-14 is a pretty fun gun to shoot, but I was trying to point out some of its shortcoming that one typically doesnt pick up on without actually handling and shooting the gun for a bit. I guarantee you that if my friend knew half of the negatives of the mini-14 before he bought it, he would never had looked at it twice. I am just trying to save someone from similar frustration.
The fact that it cannot do something that it isnt built to do is not a negative.
You are right here, but the problem is that this gun doesnt come with any statements as to its intended use. One is left to speculate as to what such a product could be used for. I was simply pointing out its limitations.
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The M1A is by far a better rifle than a Mini, or an AR15. It is also far more expensive, far heavier, far longer, and far more expensive to feed. Again, I'm not sure that it is fair to compare a lightweight carbine to a fullsize battle rifle. While I like to test the limits of any weapoms capability too, criticizing the Mini for a lack of accuracy is like complaining about room clearing with a PSG1: the tool has to be appropriate for the job. I dont think my Minis could make MOA irregardless of how good I am, but I know that they and I can hit MOM: Minute of Moron.
While I enjoy a decent bullet ejaculation as much as the next person, the defensive use of the rifle is about getting hits, not volume of fire. Shooting up the landscape may be fun, but unless we are talking about military use of suppresive and area fire it doesnt really have a place in the civil application of the rifle. Capacity is not a substitute for marksmanship. My Mini typically lives with a five round magazine on board with a couple of 30s ready to go. Having the rifle slimmed down and light makes it handy and manuverable. I can shoot it with one hand while carrying my kid with the other arm, some thing I am not studly enough to do with a M1A or a FN. I think it is more likely in the US that I can either resolve the problem in 5 rounds and reload, than needing to dump thirty rounds in short order.
FWIW, if I get an engraved invitation to a gunfight, my first choice will be to not attend, but if it is mandatory, my first choice of rifle would not be a Mini. However, I would far prefer an inexpensive Mini I can afford to practice with that lives in my truck where it'll be if I need it, than a National Match M1A in lawaway at the gunstore.
Note that I am not necessarily pushing the Mini. I have and had several. I just think it gets a bum rap and that people do not understand its proper application. Its a fun utility gun, and nothing more.
While I enjoy a decent bullet ejaculation as much as the next person, the defensive use of the rifle is about getting hits, not volume of fire. Shooting up the landscape may be fun, but unless we are talking about military use of suppresive and area fire it doesnt really have a place in the civil application of the rifle. Capacity is not a substitute for marksmanship. My Mini typically lives with a five round magazine on board with a couple of 30s ready to go. Having the rifle slimmed down and light makes it handy and manuverable. I can shoot it with one hand while carrying my kid with the other arm, some thing I am not studly enough to do with a M1A or a FN. I think it is more likely in the US that I can either resolve the problem in 5 rounds and reload, than needing to dump thirty rounds in short order.
FWIW, if I get an engraved invitation to a gunfight, my first choice will be to not attend, but if it is mandatory, my first choice of rifle would not be a Mini. However, I would far prefer an inexpensive Mini I can afford to practice with that lives in my truck where it'll be if I need it, than a National Match M1A in lawaway at the gunstore.
Note that I am not necessarily pushing the Mini. I have and had several. I just think it gets a bum rap and that people do not understand its proper application. Its a fun utility gun, and nothing more.
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the mini 14 can be made to shoot 1-2 MOA for under $75.
check this site out:
http://www.perfectunion.com/forums/index.php?showforum=8
check this site out:
http://www.perfectunion.com/forums/index.php?showforum=8
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The M1A is by far a better rifle than a Mini, or an AR15. It is also far more expensive, far heavier, far longer, and far more expensive to feed. Again, I'm not sure that it is fair to compare a lightweight carbine to a fullsize battle rifle.
Again, I agree with you that it is a better rifle, and that the initial cost may be more but by the time you add up price for purchasing (and having a gunsmith if you are not capable enough to assemble the new parts-which I dont think I am), plus the after market mags, you are in the neighborhood of a new M1. You are right, it is not fair to compare these two rifles, but what I am saying is that for the same price (range) one should consider it as an optionwhy pay $900 for an ok rifle when you can pay $1000 for a great one?
You are right about the coast of ammo though, and that is one of the reasons why I originally suggested the SKS (less money for the gun compared to the mini-14, less money for the ammo compared to .223, about the same, if not better accuracy for sustained shootingat least in my experience)
the defensive use of the rifle is about getting hits, not volume of fire.
I dont see why this should be an either or scenario. Again, you yourself have 30 round mags waiting, so you obviously agree a volume of fire is a good thing too. All I am saying is that one should get the most for their money, why get a gun that is accurate for a couple of shots when there is a gun that will be accurate all day long?
I would far prefer an inexpensive Mini I can afford to practice with that lives in my truck where it'll be if I need it, than a National Match M1A in lawaway at the gunstore.
Yeah, I would prefer a Ford that was paid off than a Jag that was repoed, but that is not the point. I am saying you can get either product for about the same price, therefore the more expensive item is a better value (I realize that the concept of value is rather subjective but I cant think of a better way to explain myself).
Again, if you like the mini, thats great. I just know the frustration that my buddy had when he found these things out firsthand. I suppose more research could have been done but then again, that is what this board is for, right?
The M1A is by far a better rifle than a Mini, or an AR15. It is also far more expensive, far heavier, far longer, and far more expensive to feed. Again, I'm not sure that it is fair to compare a lightweight carbine to a fullsize battle rifle.
Again, I agree with you that it is a better rifle, and that the initial cost may be more but by the time you add up price for purchasing (and having a gunsmith if you are not capable enough to assemble the new parts-which I dont think I am), plus the after market mags, you are in the neighborhood of a new M1. You are right, it is not fair to compare these two rifles, but what I am saying is that for the same price (range) one should consider it as an optionwhy pay $900 for an ok rifle when you can pay $1000 for a great one?
You are right about the coast of ammo though, and that is one of the reasons why I originally suggested the SKS (less money for the gun compared to the mini-14, less money for the ammo compared to .223, about the same, if not better accuracy for sustained shootingat least in my experience)
the defensive use of the rifle is about getting hits, not volume of fire.
I dont see why this should be an either or scenario. Again, you yourself have 30 round mags waiting, so you obviously agree a volume of fire is a good thing too. All I am saying is that one should get the most for their money, why get a gun that is accurate for a couple of shots when there is a gun that will be accurate all day long?
I would far prefer an inexpensive Mini I can afford to practice with that lives in my truck where it'll be if I need it, than a National Match M1A in lawaway at the gunstore.
Yeah, I would prefer a Ford that was paid off than a Jag that was repoed, but that is not the point. I am saying you can get either product for about the same price, therefore the more expensive item is a better value (I realize that the concept of value is rather subjective but I cant think of a better way to explain myself).
Again, if you like the mini, thats great. I just know the frustration that my buddy had when he found these things out firsthand. I suppose more research could have been done but then again, that is what this board is for, right?
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A few years ago I bought my wife a Mini-14 for Valentine's Day. 
It had belonged to a gunsmith who wanted to tinker with it, then resold it cheap when he was finished playing. It consistently produces better than 3/4" groups at 100 meters. I put a 4-12x scope on it (and got some 30-round pre-ban magazines). She can get 6" groups at 500 meters from a rest.
My wife, who was delighted with the present, said "True love is giving someone the ability to kill you at 500 yards."
--Bob Q
It had belonged to a gunsmith who wanted to tinker with it, then resold it cheap when he was finished playing. It consistently produces better than 3/4" groups at 100 meters. I put a 4-12x scope on it (and got some 30-round pre-ban magazines). She can get 6" groups at 500 meters from a rest.My wife, who was delighted with the present, said "True love is giving someone the ability to kill you at 500 yards."
--Bob Q
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Bquinlan,
That's some good shootin' pard. If you ever wander up to Wisconsin, or I visit Lynn Little, I'd like to shoot my flat-top against that rifle for a Bar-B-Que dinner. It should be a fun afternoon.
Alas, there are few areas for me to test at 500 meters, the range at Columbus, Wisconsin is one of those bankrupt/open/bankrupt ranges, and I don't know what the status is now. I do have access to a gravel pit, and it works good enough to loosely bag in rifles for South Dakota.
Good luck with that Mini-14!
That's some good shootin' pard. If you ever wander up to Wisconsin, or I visit Lynn Little, I'd like to shoot my flat-top against that rifle for a Bar-B-Que dinner. It should be a fun afternoon.
Alas, there are few areas for me to test at 500 meters, the range at Columbus, Wisconsin is one of those bankrupt/open/bankrupt ranges, and I don't know what the status is now. I do have access to a gravel pit, and it works good enough to loosely bag in rifles for South Dakota.
Good luck with that Mini-14!
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That does sound like fun. If we ever get up that way I'll give you a call.
And 200 meters seems to be the limit for most ranges. We had to go out to a friend's ranch for the long-range shooting. After a bit of that it really boggles my mind that some people can shoot 500 meters over iron sights!
--Bob Q