Russian army knife

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December 9, 2004: The use of thrown combat knives by elite soldiers to take out sentries is mostly Hollywood. However, there is one exception. Russian special forces troops, since Cold War days, have received extensive training on how to kill enemies by throwing knives. Observers have reported that the soldiers actually become quite expert at accurately throwing them over considerable distances. Spetsnaz troops aren’t issued a knife designed specifically for throwing, but are issued the “Army Knife” produced at the IZHMASH weapons factory. The knife weighs about 2 pounds and has a blade length of 6 inches and an overall length of 13 inches. The knife is double-edged, with one edge being completely serrated, making it an excellent weapon for hand-to-hand fighting. The handle is hollow and comes with a small survival kit.

Whether this training has actually been put to use on the battlefield is a matter for debate, but there are several reasons why elite troops do not usually throw their knives. First, knives provide troops with an invaluable survival/everyday multipurpose tool with which they open cans, cut rope, pry open ammunition crates, and do a multitude of other tasks. To throw one at an enemy and miss is essentially throwing away a very useful, and possibly expensive, tool.

Secondly, although edged weapon training is an important part of many special forces schools, troops are generally not taught to throw them because there is too much of a likelihood that they will miss. If that happens, the soldier has not only thrown away a perfectly good weapon, but will have to resort to his bare hands to engage the enemy, which should always be a last resort. When silent removal of sentries is necessary, there are many different ways to accomplish that task that are better. Garrotes, neck manipulation, and controlled use of an edged weapon all ensure more success with less risk of being caught. Of course, the amount of time spent on practicing knife throwing is dwarfed by the time spent on the firing range with their primary weapons. Elite troops try to avoid engaging the enemy with non-projectile weapons as much as possible.

Russian/Soviet troops have always excelled at hand to hand combat training, and a thrown knife is probably very deadly in the hands of a trained expert, but most elite troops choose to stay on the safe side and dispose of enemies with their knives well inside their grasp. strategypage.com
 
I've seen some videos done by a former Spetsnaz member in Toronto in which he and several others demonstrate their knife throwing ability. While it certainly wouldn't be of any use over a great distance, they are quite accurrate out to about 20 feet. Which I'd imagine could allow you to take someone down before they could get close enough to engage it hand to hand combat. They're also quite skilled at throwing their combat shovels. Also with the way the Spetsnaz train for combat it's less training them to try and use their knives as projectiles, but so they have the option to do so if they ever need it.
 
The US Army Rangers are, of course, quite famous for throwing their tomahawks. I've seen one credible report of a Ranger who took out an Iraqi sentry with a thrown 'hawk... through the sentry's bullet-resistant kavlar helmet.
 
I would think a hawk would make short work of those helmets. something else thats interesting is how an arrow from a compound bow will go right through most bullet proof vests
 
Real Russian army knife:

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Thanks, Vassili.
 
Vassili, you might just as well post here a picture of the real knife used in the Russian Army. Though elite troops may have a better choice of weapons, the appearance of the knife actually used by 99% of soldiers is enough to make anyone laugh, though someone who had any field or combat experience with that POS would be laughing with one eye and weeping with the other.
 
Well,
The truth is even on Russian knife forums people usually come to a conclusion that throwing a knife is not really a method combat. The main purpose to through a knife is to distract an enemy while you take out some more efficient and convenient weapon like a handgun. :D
But there are a few interesting knives for Soviet (Russian) front recons: http://diversant.h1.ru/guns/raznoe/nrc2.html This knife can shoot using special cartridge that the shot becomes silenced. However, people point out that the metal on the blade is crap. Anyway, I would love to have one of them (they produce a version that cannot shoot), but shooting knives are illegal. Plus cartridges for the knife are rare and expensive...
Regards,
 
Spetsnaz troops aren’t issued a knife designed specifically for throwing, but are issued the “Army Knife” produced at the IZHMASH weapons factory. The knife weighs about 2 pounds and has a blade length of 6 inches and an overall length of 13 inches. The knife is double-edged, with one edge being completely serrated, making it an excellent weapon for hand-to-hand fighting. The handle is hollow and comes with a small survival kit. I was hoping somebody had a picture of the knife. By the way the story was lifted from strategypage.com.
 
braddy said:
I was hoping somebody had a picture of the knife.


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"The knife is intended to neutralise the enemy in a hand-to-hand fighting, to help a man to survive under the extreme conditions and to perform household works. It represents a multifunctional design which compactly accommodates the following components: inside a hollow handle there is a container for a life-supporting complete set, a cover, consisting of the upper and lower plastic sheath and the base of a cord-line. They are hinged with each other.

The knife is used as:

- a camp tool for construction of shelters, storing up the timber, making the improvised means by planing, as well as for drilling holes, mortising, sawing the timber and metal;
- a tool for using as a hammer mounted on the cross-piece of the handle or a lever applicating the effort to the middle of the handle not more than 100 kgf;
- the survival gear for cutting parachute top cords and cutting-out parachute cloth, making holes in the flying vehicles, cutting the wires and cables through, breaking the window-glasses of the vehicle;
- a edged weapon.
It may be used to cook and make the moving easy in almost impassable regions, as an alpenstock, in brushwood and as a stick.

A life-supporting complete set includes:

kapron fishing-line of d 0.2...0.3 mm, m
cotton thread, m
needle for sewing, pc
fish-hooks No 4 and No 8.5, pcs
windproof matches, pcs
plate for striking a match
lead sinker "Drobinka", mm
flint, pc
fishing-line and thread coil, pc
medical patch 15 x 30 mm, pc
awl, pc
tablets for water disinfection, pc 5

SPECIFICATIONS

Mass of complete set, kg 0,6
Blade length, mm 160
Blade width, mm 30
Cord-line length, m 4
Saw length, mm 100
Overall dimensions, mm 330 х 60 х 45."

http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/kni-arm.shtml

maximus otter
 
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