S&M Saddlehorn Lockback - whoa!

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Recently I've been collecting knives from the F&W series whenever I find them at a good price. I thought I had already bought every design that appealed to me. I found a Saddlehorn at a price I couldn't refuse, so I bought it - not really expecting to like it much. To me, it just looked like an awkward design. I've never been a fan of long and slender knife designs. A fillet knife is one thing, but long and slender pocket knives just always looked like weak designs to me.
Another thing that I didn't expect to like about this knife is the lock design. It looked like it would be too easily disengaged, and just uncomfortable in general.
Next to country cousin and Queen Mountain man.
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As you can see, the saddlehorn lb is just as wide at the bolster as the mm. Because of it's length, and blade width, pics I had seen made the bolster area look a lot narrower than it actually is. Not at all the weak point I though it would be.
In hand pic -
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While the lock may appear to be in a very bad position, I've found it not to be an issue. The lock-up is very solid, and doesn't interfere with my grip at all. Although I might have preferred a more conventional lock back design, as it is - the lock is fine.
Fit and finish were very good. The blade is very dull, but I have come to expect that from the F&W series. Needless to say however, this isn't a knife I will be carrying in my pocket much anyways. It's a huge knife, and not really practical - but it has quickly become one of my favorite F&W's.
One other thing that didn't really appeal to me about this latest series of F&W's was the handle materials. The coloring just seemed kind of one dimensional. The scales on the one I received are very nice however, lots of contrast and depth to the coloring.
All in all - very impressed with this knife. Really a case of pictures not being able to do this knife justice. (Especially mine). thanks

Adam
 
5,5" closed? or something around 5? looks really big!

Yeah, it's definitely a very large folder at around "5 3/8" closed. But the biggest surprise for me was how well balanced the design is in person. In most of the pics I saw, it looked very awkward - like a bowie type blade on a toothpick handle. In person, the proportions are much more balanced.
 
That one's AWESOME. Love the size, the profile, the handle slabs, everything. And I'm a sucker for the old-style sticking-out lock tabs. :D :cool:
 
Their F&W swayback clasp isn't a swayback either, but that's what they called it. Who knows...

Anyway, that's a nice looking blade. It is good to see it in someone's hand to get a real sense of the size. Looks like it'd be handy for some kitchen work. Big enough to carve a turkey breast, slice a loaf of bread, reach into a mayonnaise jar....hey, anyone else feeling hungry? :D
 
Yup...that's what they are calling it. According to one popular site that sells them..."The Saddlehorn Lockback knife pattern has been resurrected from Schatt and Morgan dies dated 1917. I have no idea where Queen got the name for this knife. I would call it a "Swell Center, Folding Hunter" or "Swell Center Lock-Back Hunter" "
 
I never could see any correlation between the case version or this version and a saddle horn. :confused:

I suppose it is just a name like trapper

Dave
 
Please could you include your explanation of the correct name?
It would help those less educated in the matter.

Thanks.

I was trying to figure out WHO was calling it a "saddlehorn". I got my answer, thanks. There are a number of people on the forums here that don't want to be bothered the traditional names of knives and would rather, let's say be "creative" in their naming conventions. I have decided to take a more passive stance when it comes to these things and let them live in their bliss...so...

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I was trying to figure out WHO was calling it a "saddlehorn". I got my answer, thanks. There are a number of people on the forums here that don't want to be bothered the traditional names of knives and would rather, let's say be "creative" in their naming conventions. I have decided to take a more passive stance when it comes to these things and let them live in their bliss...so...

There are a number of people on the forums here that want to be bothered with the traditional names of knives and would rather you explain. :cool:

Thanks
 
I always thought a Saddlehorn had a distinctly curved/rounded end to the handle very much like an old-fashioned flintlock pistol. Makes it fit snugly into the palm rather than sticking out of it. I may well be wrong.....
 
Do a search on "saddlehorn" on this sub forum and I'm sure you'll find a lot of pictures of the pattern. For the most part, they have curved handles.

And Willgoy beat me to the punch...
 
Yup...that's what they are calling it. According to one popular site that sells them..."The Saddlehorn Lockback knife pattern has been resurrected from Schatt and Morgan dies dated 1917. I have no idea where Queen got the name for this knife. I would call it a "Swell Center, Folding Hunter" or "Swell Center Lock-Back Hunter" "

There are a number of people on the forums here that want to be bothered with the traditional names of knives and would rather you explain. :cool:

Thanks

You're just tryin to suck me in to a pissin contest. I happen to like pissin contests, even though I'm not the best at it and carry no weight, I still like to try. ;) That said, I believe there is standard nomenclature for the knife like Campbell stated (Swell Center Lock-Back Hunter) and there are popular names such as "Saddlehorn". The saddlehorn that we have come to know is not shaped at all like the knife in the OP. Maybe S&M was the first one to name their knife "saddlehorn" but it doesn't look a thing like this...

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...just sayin. :D
 
Maybe this will help clear things up. Is the degree to which the handle dips down enough to qualify it as a saddlehorn? Personally, I have no idea. I will leave it for the experts to judge. Maybe to someone who only collects "saddlehorns" according to some strict definition it would matter. To me it doesn't.

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Adam
 
Maybe this will help clear things up. Is the degree to which the handle dips down enough to qualify it as a saddlehorn? Personally, I have no idea. I will leave it for the experts to judge. Maybe to someone who only collects "saddlehorns" according to some strict definition it would matter. To me it doesn't.

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Adam

...and that's why I wasn't going to say anything. :D
 
looks like a giant single blade trapper to me
too little curve to be a saddel horn but I'm not an expert..
 
How does that famous line go...a lockback folding hunter by any other name is still a saddlehorn? ;)
 
If someone has a scanner, scan and post the Ulster lockback on p. 220 of LG4 (if that is allowed). According to Levine, this would
 
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