S30V and S35VN Nomenclature

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I have tried to find this through searching threads but to no avail.

Should not S35VN be named S35VNb as it contains no Nitrogen (N), but does contain Niobium (Nb). S30V does contain Nitrogen yet is not called s30VN.

The naming convention Crucible uses is confusing in this case is it not?
 
I'm with ya. Names are confusing. I got so many weird looks when I went to the dealer with a saddle to pick up my new Ford Mustang, like I was the idiot...


As long as it's a unique identifier, I'm not sure the name really matters. It gives you something to search to pull up the full composition. Consistency across types would be nice, but I'm not sure it's needed
 
I don't think Crucible is using or intending to use IUPAC symbols for their alloy names, just initials of the constituents.

What is the nitrogen content of CPM S30V? I don't see it listed on Crucible's data sheet.


vba said:
I have tried to find this through searching threads but to no avail.

Should not S35VN be named S35VNb as it contains no Nitrogen (N), but does contain Niobium (Nb). S30V does contain Nitrogen yet is not called s30VN.

The naming convention Crucible uses is confusing in this case is it not?
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rhino said:
I don't think Crucible is using or intending to use IUPAC symbols for their alloy names, just initials of the constituents.

What is the nitrogen content of CPM S30V? I don't see it listed on Crucible's data sheet.
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There are dozens (maybe more) if steel classification standards -- just check out Knife Steel FAQ (http://www.zknives.com/knives/articles/knifesteelfaq.shtml). All powder steels have a pinch of nitrogen due to the process, which involves spraying the molten alloy into liquid nitrogen, if I understand the process. (Larrin may want to weigh in here.) Names are just a convenient way of identifying the steel; you have to go to the actual specs to determine the content.
 
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Yep, it gets a little confusing. Always interesting to read articles like that or Larrins work at knife steel nerds. I learned a many years ago to try not to figure out the how/why steels get their name. It gets even worse when you get different names for essentially the same steel. Ex. D2 (US) = Bohler K110 (Germany) vs 1.2379/x153CrMoV12 (EU).

nsm said:
Probably my fault with CPM S45VN. I thought the name would help indicate that it was in S30V and S35VN family. (Kind of like Boeing using 737, 747, 757...) I didn't do particularly well in my sales and marketing classes.
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nsm nsm . I want you to go sit in the corner and think about what you did for 5 minutes. I believe it is called a "time out".
 
gazz98 said:
Yep, it gets a little confusing. Always interesting to read articles like that or Larrins work at knife steel nerds. I learned a many years ago to try not to figure out the how/why steels get their name. It gets even worse when you get different names for essentially the same steel. Ex. D2 (US) = Bohler K110 (Germany) vs 1.2379/x153CrMoV12 (EU).


nsm nsm . I want you to go sit in the corner and think about what you did for 5 minutes. I believe it is called a "time out".
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I probably deserve more than 5 but I'll take it.
 
nsm said:
Probably my fault with CPM S45VN. I thought the name would help indicate that it was in S30V and S35VN family. (Kind of like Boeing using 737, 747, 757...) I didn't do particularly well in my sales and marketing classes.
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Really hate it when someone cowboys up and takes responsibility. Ruins the witch hunt.
 
rhino said:
I don't think Crucible is using or intending to use IUPAC symbols for their alloy names, just initials of the constituents.

What is the nitrogen content of CPM S30V? I don't see it listed on Crucible's data sheet.
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Z-Knives has N listed as 0.2%
 
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