s30v high temperature temper

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Getting ready to fire up my new Evenheat for the first time! Looking at Crucible's datasheet on S30V it seems the hardness goes back up tempering around 1000f, would anyone share more complete data on the secondary hardening for this alloy? I realize the blade may lose a bit of stain resistance but have heard that toughness at the same hardness may increase using the high temperature temper.
 
I don't personally know. Just thought I'd say congratulations on the new oven, I'm jealous. Good luck with the S30V.
 
more info...

"Note: As with all martensitic stainless steels, tempering at
800-1100°F (425-600°C) will result in sensitization which
causes a minor reduction in both corrosion resistance and
toughness. We recommend that this tempering range be
avoided."

from crucible data sheet cpm154

"NOTE:For optimum stress relieving, CPM S30V may be tempered at
1000-1025°F (540-550°C). Tempering in this range may result in a slight decrease
in corrosion resistance"

from crucible data sheet cpms30v

also from this sheet, austenitizing at 1950f and using an oil quench with no freeze, hardness goes up from 57.5 at a 400f temper to 59.5 at 1000f

So my question is: does toughness really drop at the high temper or not? I'm familiar with tempered martensite embrittlement but that usually is at a lower temperature range and is not usually accompanied by an increase in hardness. How would "optimum stress relief" "sensitize" the steel and reduce toughness?

Amazingly on the cpm154 datasheet the hardness using a 1000f temper is 64 with a 2000f austenitizing, oil quench with freeze.
 
It is a general characteristic of hardened (martensitic) stainless that there is a drop in toughness and a slight increase in hardness in that temperature range. Sensitization comes from precipitation of chromium carbides around the grain boundaries. These are the large Cr23 C6 carbides. Thats right, 23 atoms of Cr to 6 atoms of carbon. This is even a problem in 410 and 420, since very little carbon is needed to tie up a lot of Cr.

When Cr is tied up in carbides, it doesn't contribute to corrosion resistance. Now you have corrosion prone areas lining the grain boundaries. Corrosion can be so bad in these areas that the grains just fall out after the boundary is dissolved.

The decrease in toughness partially comes from these carbides around the grain boundaries. This increase/decrease of carbides/toughness and corrosion resistance is general for stainless steels. Specific grades can moderate or even eliminate the sensitization problem. It can get complicated pretty quickly. I would expect S30V to be better at corrosion resistance after exposure to this temperature range, since it contains a lot of vanadium, which will tie up the carbon before the Cr gets a chance. Thus, the Cr is left free to resist corrosion. The brittleness is a bit more involved and depends on where the carbides end up. Cr23C6 typically shows up in grain boundaries. Vanadium carbide may not, but I don't know. If not, it would be in the interior of the grains, and less likely to provide a continuous brittle carbide path for a crack to follow.
 
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