S30V Leek, initial impressions

Ritt

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Arrived via UPS from NGK yesterday, thought I'd shoot a few pics and share my initial impressions.

Overall, I like it.

Nice and slim, good lines to it. Feels good in the hand. Love the blade profile, nice and thin and pointy as a Mofo, should take care of all your splinter-picking needs. Passably sharp out of the box, a few swipes on the ceramic rods finished the edge up nicely. I did notice, though, that after slicing some scrap paper the S30V was badly chipped :D (No, of course it wasn't, it's a joke, I love S30V)

Very light to carry, but with a substantial enough feel in the hand to feel, well, substantial. Strong rotation from the speedsafe, with a solid thwack at the end and a solid lock-up. I'm pretty sure I see PB washers in there. Blade is centered and there's no play. The "jimping" (is that the right word?) on the flipper and the rear of the blade-spine is just right, there's enough of it and it's deep enough to do the job.

There was just the slightest bit of grit in the action, the kind you can hear if you close it slowly. Hot water, soap, toothbrush, followed by the wife's hair-dryer and a bit of militec took out the grit and now it is absolutely buttery smooth.

I didn't spine-whack it but I put what I consider a substantial static load on it and it did not budge at all, no visible flex in the liner. I trust the lock.

Finish on the G-10 is very nice. It is smooth, but does not feel slippery, so far. I'm looking forward to getting the grippy G-10/stonewashed blade version when it comes out.


A few things I would prefer to have been otherwise:

I prefer a tip-up carry option, to keep the pivot cleaner. The clip on these are dedicated tip-down right-hand carry. Further, the shape of the clip and the cut-outs at the butt-end of the knife preclude a clip-flip with the stock clip, and it's tough to see how even a custom clip could be mounted down there. That said, the standard clip does work well, and doesn't have that "clip as afterthought" look to it, it looks good on the knife.

The knife comes with a little plastic safety that you can slide forward to prevent the knife from opening. Way too fiddly for me, I immediately took it off. Now I need to decide if I can live with the oblong cut-out next to the lanyard hole, or if I need to find and shape something to fill that void.

Again, overall I like it. It'll be my EDC for at least the next few weeks and I'll provide an update after I've used it a bit.

Nicely done, Kershaw.
 
Ritt said:
the shape of the clip and the cut-outs at the butt-end of the knife preclude a clip-flip with the stock clip, and it's tough to see how even a custom clip could be mounted down there. That said, the standard clip does work well, and doesn't have that "clip as afterthought" look to it, it looks good on the knife.

Cool! - the Polished G-10 this S30V Leek reminds me of one of my early favorites - the Kershaw/Ken Onion Ricochet (model 1520 - along with the Random Task - with the reverse Tanto-like blade that so many people liked).

Perhaps the G-10 profiling may prevent this - but on the regular stainless steel handled Leeks there are pre-drilled holes for the reversing of the clip to tip-up carry - and one can see from these pre-drilled holes the stock clip is designed in such a way to to best fit/accomodate the safety slot and lanyard hole.

BlkLEEKsBck_S.jpg
BlkLEEKsSaf.jpg



I think maybe Kershaw did not pre-drill the holes for cosmetic/looks reasons - as that polished G-10 is very nice.....

Ritt said:
The knife comes with a little plastic safety that you can slide forward to prevent the knife from opening. Way too fiddly for me, I immediately took it off. Now I need to decide if I can live with the oblong cut-out next to the lanyard hole, or if I need to find and shape something to fill that void.

A lot of people simply screw down the safety tight so that it would not accidentally engage. I do it so that the safety can be still be used albeit with a bit of deliberate effort - that fulfills two roles of keeping the original looks as well as being able to use the safety if necessary (which I hardly ever do - but at least it is still an option).

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UnknownVT said:
Cool! - the Polished G-10 this S30V Leek reminds me of one of my early favorites - the Kershaw/Ken Onion Ricochet (model 1520 - along with the Random Task - with the reverse Tanto-like blade that so many people liked).

Perhaps the G-10 profiling may prevent this - but on the regular stainless steel handled Leeks there are pre-drilled holes for the reversing of the clip to tip-up carry - and one can see from these pre-drilled holes the stock clip is designed in such a way to to best fit/accomodate the safety slot and lanyard hole.

BlkLEEKsBck_S.jpg
BlkLEEKsSaf.jpg



I think maybe Kershaw did not pre-drill the holes for cosmetic/looks reasons - as that polished G-10 is very nice.....



A lot of people simply screw down the safety tight so that it would not accidentally engage. I do it so that the safety can be still be used albeit with a bit of deliberate effort - that fulfills two roles of keeping the original looks as well as being able to use the safety if necessary (which I hardly ever do - but at least it is still an option).

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That's what I've done with mine, tightened the little screw...

The quality of these knives still amazes me. Also , I can't explain why but I like the fact that the production date is stamped on the knife. I have two leeks one is stamped Sep '04 and the other Sep'05, I think it's on the blade ....
 
Thanks Ritt! Helpful info there. I am waiting for the "grippy" version to come to town and hope the clip can be reversed on that model. I carry a Rainbow Leek as my EDC and took off the safety immediately. I have never had an accidental opening problem.But then I like SIG pistols with no safety also.
 
Nice review. I always thought the Leek would be such a great knife with alittle bit better blade on it. I'm glad Kershaw came out with the s30v g10.
Is this just a limited run model? Or has this knife fully hit the markets?
Also, I just tightened my safety in the closed position-like most people-looks better this way.
 
You know, I've always had a thing for the Ken Onion Kershaws, I owned a Bump, great knife but in the pocket it felt, to me, like a rock, way too heavy to EDC. I like the Leek but I wasn't going to plunk down hard earned cash for 440a steel (guess I'm a steel snob as I EDC VG-10 and S30V Spyderco, production knives wise) this Leek is one I'll pick up for sure, the smooth G-10 reminds me of the Ricochet, which I missed out on the first go around, add
S30V, can't resist! Thanks for the review!!!
Cheers,
Rob
 
So who else has a new G10 leek that loves it? I'm thinking about getting one later tonight.

I'm a bit skeptical of the tip down only carry as I'm always afraid that the assisted open will open in my pocket if I don't put the safety on.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but I'd imagine tip down carry would make it somewhat safer for accidental openings.

I EDC two assisted openers (although one is now formelly known as assisted) and it's never been a problem, so I think you'll be fine without the safety.
 
When I carry tip up the blade always faced the rear of the pocket which stops it from opening ever.

That's why I don't understand why people do tip down so much. Tip down puts your hand in the wrong place when you draw the knife. Spyderco can get away with tip up is because you can draw the knife and the perform a Spyderdrop to open it.

:D
 
Ever owned or handled a leek/chive before Joe? The torsion bar design holds the closed blade in the closed position, just like how the backspring does for a slipjoint. They are therefore very hard to deploy on accident. I used to edc one, and can't recall ever having it accidently deploy, especially not in my pocket. :thumbup: Hope that makes your purchase worry-free.
-Bill
 
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Great Review..

This is making me want another leek bad.. The one I had was a bit too slim and slippery.. but this one looks very cool and a bit more traction on the scales...

When I did tip up on my leek it just felt funny to me.. I perfer tip up carry too..
 
Well, first I'd like to say that I too prefer tip up, if only very slightly. I use both all the time.

But the logic behind tip down is that blades are less likely to fall open that way....there's no gravity to pull it away from the handle like there is in tip up. Furthermore, if the blade does open a little in the pocket, it shouldn't cut you when you reach for it, at least not so often as the tip up would, where it might actually stab you.

I see what you're saying, but you can do the exact same thing with tip down if you put it on the other side of your pocket. Ideally, you'll use it in your watch pocket, where there's just no room for it to open in any case.

I can actually draw my tip down knives about as easily as I can my tip up. But again, given the choice (and lock type considered), I'd more often than not choose tip up too.
 
Thanks for the insight Artfully Martial. I see what you mean now.

Springtac,

I own a Leek, Scallion and just sent a Spec Bump out on passaround so I know about the Assisted Open :)
 
A lot of people question the twitchiness of the Leek -
quite rightly worried about them opening accidentally while clipped to the pocket -

I like the Leek enough that I have three (well, ok 3 different versions) -

Kershaw/Ken Onion LEEK (pics)

Kershaw Rainbow Leek - a pictorial review

Black "boron" Leek

Being the worrying kind I have tried to make the knife open "accidentally" by dropping the knife - trying to get it to fall on the index-open flipper - then esculating to throwing the knife down (on to carpet) again aiming for the flipper - then finally really smacking the flipper hard on a pad of newspaper - all of those failed to open the knife.

I have essentially EDC'd (at home) a Leek since I first got one that's over 3 years now and it has never opened on me accidentally and I have not used the safety - in fact screwing it down tighter so that it is barely movable - just in case I want to use it - but I haven't, so far.

Of course safety is important - and YMMV - one should always make one's own decisions when it comes to personal safety.

One of the major and important points that make the Speed-Safe assisted opeing knife legal and NOT a "switch-blade" or "automatic" is that it requires physically/manually moving the blade out of the handle before any (spring) assistance takes place.

On my Leeks (and I have 3) they require more than about 15degs of movement/extraction before the torsion spring even kicks in -
that's quite a lot of movement.
Here's a photo showing the amount of stand-off of all 3 of my Leeks, to show how much the blade actually has to be moved before the torsion spring kicks in.
LeekStandOff.jpg


Having said that - safety with knives is paramount and I agree one should always err on the side of safety.
I am not advocating any unsafe practices -
just wanted to show that in my (limited) experience the Speed-Safe mechanism using the index-open (flipper) is not really that "twitchy", and it actually takes quite deliberate effort to open the knife.

The fact that Speed-Safe knives still can be opened easily when one wants to - only goes to show how good this design is.

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