S60V Blur?

Thomas W

Thomas W

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We are looking at doing a limited edition run (500-100 pieces) of a G-10 Blur, and have some S60V we can use for blade material.

Do you all have interest in S60V? Thanks for the input.
 
S60 is not my favorite steel, but it is not bad at all.

I am more interested in the G10 part of the equation, I would also request that the blade be satin finished, and not black coated.

Best REgards,

STeven Garsson
 
We have enough S60V to do 1000 blades or so. MSRP would be in the $150 range. Coating would either be black or a gray Chromium Nitride. Black G-10.
 
I would love one, My blur saved me great bodily harm!! I would love to own one in g10, easier on the pocket than the grippy coated aluminum handle When and where can I get my hands on one?
 
S60V is good stuff, but it's a real son-of-a-bitch to sharpen. How hard do you guys plan to harden this stuff?

Full G-10, or G-10 with those sandpaper inserts (I like the inserts)?

I prefer a satin finish, but the gray coating would look more ascetically pleasing than the black coating. Don't use a coating though. :)
 
This Blur would have full G-10 scales. As far as hardness, I'm not sure where it would end up. I'll have to get back to you.
 
I'd definatly be into one, I always liked the feel of the blur I just never got around to buying one, that would be the motivation I need!
 
Thomas, I believe some companies ran 440V so low ( 55 or so supposedly) that the edge stability possible with that steel disappeared. They were attempting to keep chipping down. I have some of those knives and they are still hard to sharpen, and knick, gouge, fold over ( unless made more obtuse than they should be).

If it's not fully hard it shouldn't be done. BTW, I never had trouble with my Boa. I still EDC it now and again. Only you would have the warranty figures for the old Avalanche and Boa during their 440V days but they seemed pretty competent.

BTW, I posted on the S30 Blur thread the other day to you but as usual my post killed and buried the thread. eh! Joe L.
 
This is great. I think this steel CPM S60V was unfairely disregarded as part of promotion campain for CPM S30V. Personaly I never have problem with it. As well as I never have problem sharpening any steel, this one actually sharpens very good.

It has much better wear resistance then CPM S30V and it will be great to see it back on the market.

But why blur not Spec Bump. You sad that Spec Bump will be model to make with different steels? If not Spec Bump - may be Cyclon. Well, I will be happy with Blur, too, but really prefer SpecBump as best general model Kershaw has.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Count me in! I already have one of your original black Blurs...and would happily buy an S60V Blur.
 
Ooh, I like the idea of a full G10 Blur. But I'd prefer S30V or even AUS-10. I'm one of those that will likely have problems sharpening S60V (haven't tried it, but have a feeling I will).
 
I would love G-10, not quite so hot on the 440V. Too easy to get wrong and if it's the only shot at G10, I'd rather not have such a temperamental steel, often too soft to reduce chipping, or too hard in which it chips.I'd be particularly concerned with a recurved blade.
 
Everyone should just get an Edgepro with the aluminum oxide stones and they'll be able to sharpen whatever steel they come across. :)
 
I may get burned at the stake for saying this, and the only reason I'm saying it is because I'm very happy with my S30V Blur, but... Why don't you just sit on the steel for a little while longer and offer one of the new models like the JYD in an alternate steel after they have been on the market for a little while? You could still offer the Blur with the G-10 grips with some of the steel you're currently using.
 
When I run some experiments with 440V and CPM S30V Military after a lot of cutting I did not find big difference, but visually CPM S30V was bit more damaged in terms of micro chipping! It was visible only with really close look and did not affect really cutting but I CPM S30V had rougher edge.

I never saw chiped out 440V blades! I never heart about broken 440V blade etc. I think industry realized that they have to spend more belts on CPM S60V grinding it and choose several times less wear resistant steel CPM S30V, even Crucible came with CPM S90V as an substitute for Clamed as a "too brittle" CPM S60V... Crucible positioned CPM S30V as an entry level PM steel for cuttlery, but initially pushing for CPM S90V.

Can somebody tell me what equipment they use when it toke them "too much" time to sharpen CPM C60V versus other steel - I like to try this myself, because I never experience those "trouble" sharpening myself!

I sharpen almost every steel without significant difference. I think that "sharpenabiity" is just common excuse used by manufacturers to not to offer best steel. Microtech for example do not afraid to use CPM S90V. As well as Kershaw as I understand will have knife with it.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
You sold me with the G-10. I have always liked the design, I just don't like aluminum handles(for the most part). S60V works for me. I have not had any issues with it.
 
The Mastiff said:
Thomas, I believe some companies ran 440V so low ( 55 or so supposedly) that the edge stability possible with that steel disappeared.
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The reality here is likely an issue with hardening. S60V is actually fairly diffcult to harden due to the very high alloy content. For example a 1950 austenization and an air quench + 400 F temper just gets you 56 HRC. You have to use oil/cold and a high austenization temper to get the steel really hard. One of the main requirements of S30V was that it could be hardened easier by knifemakers, along with being easier to grind.

-Cliff
 
I am not familiar with S60V, but I would love to see a Blur with G-10 scales. I have one of the originals, and love the design, but hate the trac-tec inserts. Just too abrasive. I like the sugestion of putting G-10 on the Cyclone as well. Keep up the good work!
 
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