S90V for Nakiri

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Hello does anyone have experience with S90V in the kitchen? I originally wanted an aogami super blade but unfortunately I can’t find a local person who works with that steel. I would prefer not to online order and international ship but it seems that might be my only option for AS.
However I have the option for a S90V Nakiri. Anyone know how the edge holds compared to AS or other blue steel blades?
 
I don't have any direct experience, But I do have experience with Aogami Super which is my favorite carbon steel for the kitchen.
I do kniow S90V from folding knives, it's a great powder steel.
I would guess that it would probably have better edge retention that AOS. However, one of the AOS attributes that I like is that it sharpens quite easily and to a very fine edge
with regular chosera/king/naniwa stones.
I would be skeptical if I could sharpen S90V to the same level without more time and effort. Plus I'd have to go diamond plates for the vanadium carbides,
 
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Hello does anyone have experience with S90V in the kitchen? I originally wanted an aogami super blade but unfortunately I can’t find a local person who works with that steel. I would prefer not to online order and international ship but it seems that might be my only option for AS.
However I have the option for a S90V Nakiri. Anyone know how the edge holds compared to AS or other blue steel blades?
With the correct heat treat and geometry being equal, S90V will outcut Aogami Blue Super with the added benefit of being stainless.
 
S90V is an interesting steel. Very high edge holding, but very difficult to work with and sharpen. I made several Shechita/Chalef (Kosher slaughtering knives) in the steel and they are basically Nakiri shaped rectangles and very thin. I ground 2, 18" x 2.5" wide Shechita and 4, 5" x 2" wide Shechita. I ground and sharpened them on my 2x72 and then refined that edge with Shapton Glass 500, Bester 1200 and Rika 5K waterstones and then used a 14 micron and 3 micron Diamond emulsions on leather strops. They were pretty sharp after the Rika 5K stage, so the stropping was more refining than anything. The other water stones worked on them, but due to the size and flex of the knives, took a while. Sharpening 18" of anything will take a while! The 5" ones were much easier to sharpen. I carry a S90V fixed blade as my EDC and have taken it to the sharpening stones only once in just under a year. The Strop keeps the edge nice and sharp. I made a few other edc's in S90V with 3-4" blades and sharpening on the water stones isn't bad at all. Diamonds make it faster, but the Shapton Glass Stones work very well on highly alloyed steels. Shorter height blades and shorter length blades work pretty well, but long, thin blades are not the best in S90V.

Kitchen knives usually need thinning down the road and if you need to do chip repair, I would want a variable speed 2x72 for S90V. You would not want to do those tasks with stones! When I got close to done with the Shecita, I noticed a lot of flex in the blade when grinding, so it was hard to get it nice and thin without overheating the steel. I had to wet the belts and blades a lot; most belts won't cut very well without some pressure on the hardened S90V. EDC blades aren't as tall, so they don't flex as much to cause an issue. Something like a thin chef knife or Nakiri will flex a lot and be much harder to grind, especially post HT. Getting a nice finish on the blade is a lot more difficult, too for the same reasons. Belts go dull quicker and start burnishing the steel. I could see reflections from 80 and 120 grit belts when they started burnishing. Ceramic or SiC finishing belts were needed.

Aogami Super barstock is hard to get outside of Japan, which is why many do not work with it. Some of the european steels are similar with more alloys in them. You can look for something in Apex Ultra (high hardness carbon steel), M4, CPM CruWear, etc if you want a carbon steel with better edge retention. Or Magnacut if you want something in Stainless, but with excellent edge holding and easier to sharpen than S90V.
 
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