Sabrecat with Shoulder Straps (pic heavy)

foxyrick

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Since I can't get out at the moment*, I'm taking the opportunity to set my kit up ready for when I can. I've wanted to do this mod for a while.

I really like my Maxpedition Sabrecat. If I can get away without needing the space a rucksack gives, then I prefer to keep my back unencumbered and open to the air for cooling. Besides, I've always liked waist-mounted kit. The Sabrecat is great; it holds a good amount of gear, has space for extras like a bottle holder, and is a good fit on the waist.

Unfortunately, as is common with waist packs especially with my figure, when heavily loaded it quickly starts to try to slide down, hang awkwardly, and pull my pants down. For that reason I like the idea of adding shoulder straps. It still keeps the back relatively free but holds up the waist pack. It's a compromise that I think will work very well for me. It certainly feels 'right' when worn around the house which I've been doing for about a week now.

I managed to find somewhere that still has Spec-Ops Superstraps in stock, in foliage green to match my MaxP kit. I'm a bit obsessed about matching kit.

The Superstraps are well padded and are a good width; like proper rucksack straps rather than just a webbing strap and with the benefit of a sternum strap which I like. They are intended as an upgrade for their own packs of course, but work very well as add-ons to my Sabrecat with a couple of 'tweaks'. Shame they have been discontinued, I think.

I also obtained a selection of foliage green plastic hardware and 1" webbing to do the mods.

The Sabrecat also has a MaxP 10x4 bottle holder, tightly secured with two malice clips, on the left side. On the right side is an ATS medium upright GP pouch, in ranger green. Although not a match for the foliage green, it's not too far away and I can cope with it. The pouch is for my binocular, plus a bit of space for other kit. It's the perfect size and a nice pouch. There's still room next to the water bottle for a Maxpedition M1 pouch, when I get one.

The only catch now is that the GP pouch has taken away the space my knife used to fit. I'm planning on making a slim kydex sheath for my Hell Razor that will fit between the GP pouch and the waist belt, in the middle space between the two outer attachment points used to secure the pouch. Should work nicely I think.

Anyway, on to some pictures of the kit and explanations of what I did. I've suspended the rig on a tripod as it's a bit tricky to photograph while I'm wearing it. When I can get out and about again I'll get some photos of it being worn. It fits much better than it looks because it hands a bit odd on the tripod.

You can click on most of the pictures for a larger view.


First, a few front views and a back view

Note in these pictures that the back of the shoulder straps are attached to the carrying strap, not the more obvious D-rings on the Sabrecat. This feels better on the back I think although I'll experiment more on this. Also, the straps are crossed at the back which gives a better angle over the shoulders than having them straight up.










The ATS Medium GP Pouch

A nice size for my binocular and some extra space for whatever. The only thing Maxpedition have that would fit my bino's nicely is the FIGHT pouch, and that's very expensive, heavier, bulkier for the space it gives and less capacious. I still might try one though if I ever find one cheap enough. My bino's will actually fit in the 7x5x4 vertical MaxP pouch, but getting them in and out through the slit-zip top is awkward and annoying. THE ATS pouch is well made and should be quite hard wearing, it's just not quite the right colour.




Attachment of the back straps to the Sabrecat's carrying handle.

To fit the buckles on here, I had to use 'field repair' buckles. These have a small slot in the centre of one end, to allow it to be fitted onto a webbing strap without having access to the end of the webbing. Views from front, back and top.








Front strap attachment to waist belt

I used a piece of webbing and a D-ring here, threaded though the webbing on the waist belt. The threading is arranged so that both pieces of webbing on the waist belt take a share of the load from the shoulder strap. The tri-glide buckle on it is placed to put load onto the upper of the two, as well as to secure the webbing loop.




Web Dominators on the straps

These are handy little things! Web Dominators slide onto a webbing strap, you roll the loose end of the strap up and use the shock cord to secure it to the clip. Front, side and back views.





In summary: I'm pleased with the results so far but there is still some tidying up and fine tuning to do. I just got bored and wanted to take some pictures. I'll stitch the hooks onto the front straps instead of using the tri-glides, shorten the front straps a little (no need for so much loose end), trim the shock cords etc.

I might stitch the back of the straps together, where they cross. This would stabilise the back a little at the expense of less flexibility for wearing thick clothing - this needs some actual field time though before I take the plunge. I would rather find a way to lock them together but still allow adjustment of the 'lock' position. Hmm...

Comments and suggestions welcome!

*still waiting for my ruptured Achilles tendon and surgery to heal sufficiently.
 
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wow, maxpedition should just sell their sabercat (maybe sabercat2?) like that and i'd definetly line up to buy one.

i originally had bought the proteus and i had the same problem of it slipping and what not.

nice mods dude, hope ya get on your feet soon to play around with it.
 
I might stitch the back of the straps together, where they cross. This would stabilise the back a little at the expense of less flexibility for wearing thick clothing - this needs some actual field time though before I take the plunge. I would rather find a way to lock them together but still allow adjustment of the 'lock' position. Hmm...

Comments and suggestions welcome!

*still waiting for my ruptured Achilles tendon and surgery to heal sufficiently.

I haven't yet, but I need some sort of harness for my Sabercat as it's too heavy filled with gear. So I may buy a pair of those straps and try it. It might work. The only thing I'm seeing that may be problem is the handle bunching up alot. Not sure if that may cause any problems with it shifting at all.
 
The only concern I have about fixing to the handle is that the weight is being supported mainly on just two of the handle attachment straps, not all four. The outer side of the handle's straps, that go over the pocket, cannot be put under enough tension to share the load due to going over the top.

I don't think it's a serious issue though as the straps are not meant to completely support the pack's weight anyway, only enough to hold it up on the waist. It doesn't seem to cause any problems so far. I've checked for stretching at all the stitches and seams. The only place I've seen that is on the webbing that goes around the waist belt from the side compressions straps. The stitching on the first stitch on the belt is stretched a lot, but that's due to the placement of the GP pouch and weak stitching there. It's nothing whatsoever to do with the shoulder straps and is easily fixed with some extra stitching there when I get my needle out.

Do you mean the handle bunching inwards, due to the angle of the shoulder straps? If so, keep in mind that I am only 5'8 tall but very (very!) broad shouldered. The angle of the straps is therefore probably more than it would be on 'average frame' folks.

The direction that the handle is pulled in, other than inwards as above, is straight up. The handle itself acts as a stop for the attached buckles and that is where it is pulled upwards.

If that angle due to crossing them over is too much though, and pulls the handle straps together too strongly, the shoulder straps could go straight up instead of crossing. I tried it that way first but preferred the crossed fit on me.

There are other shoulder straps out there; I saw some when I was searching that are sculpted on the shoulders. These might fit better with the back straps uncrossed. They were not available in foliage so I didn't look at them any further. If using them, or mine uncrossed, I would probably want to connect them with a horizontal strap across the shoulder blades. That would prevent them slipping off the shoulders easily.

And of course, you could try attaching the shoulder straps to the D-rings on the Sabrecat, rather than the handle. Use a couple of hooks or thread the webbing though and fix with tri-glides. It is the more obvious place; it's just that I found it less comfortable that what I did.

You could just buy/improvise some simple webbing straps to try the idea out first. The padded straps are just for more comfort really.
 
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Looks like a great set-up to put a kit in! Once you get the kit set up, don't forget the pics for us to enjoy ;)
 
I certainly will!

The overall kit is in flux at the moment as I play about with the carrying system as well as possible contents.
 
I bought an inexpensive set of Mil-Surp Y-suspenders for my Maxpedition Devil Dog. Suspenders/shoulder straps make these kind of butt packs much more versatile and comfortable when carrying heavier loads.

Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
Nicely done. The SC is my favorite pack, but it's fatal flaw is that it holds too much stuff. :) I've tried a single strap mod, but it wasn't comfortable, and I usually use a Camelbak, anyway. A CB/SC hybrid rig might be a fun project.

"It's not kludged together...it's modular!" :D
 
I like your set-up. I have been using a Devil Dog with a shoulder strap for a while, but I just picked-up an Arktis SAR vest with a hydration bladder. The Arktis looks very much like what you have put together..
 
Hey FoxyRick! Thanks for posting you setup! I, too, like a lumbar pack setup for back cooling and mobility reasons. About a year ago I purchased a new ( I had an older model without the bottle holsters) Moutainsmith Day lumbar pack and have been using that with their Strappettes shoulder straps. For me, it is a very comfortable setup. I wish that it had a little more room, however. Also, the Mountainsmith Day doesn't have many accessory attachment points, which limits what all else I can add onto the rig.

The Sabrecat looks to be an awesome lumbar platform, and I say that now that I've seen your harness mod. That is quite spectacular, I must say! Sadly, I already have another modular 'low-riding' pack setup on order, otherwise I'd immediately follow in your footsteps with the Sabrecat and your harnes mod. If my new pack doesn't work out, I'll definitely look at duplicating your setup.

Thanks for the information and inspiration!
 
I love what you did with this, I've been contemplating this very same thing. I have a Mountainsmith Day lumbar pack. Which is a large bag, that I have used for years. I bought the "Strappettes" shoulder harness for it. The harness made the bag nearly perfect, but there is no organisational qualities to it, so I was looking at the Sabercat with the thought of modding to fit the Mountainsmith Strappettes to help take up the load, and keep my stuff organized. The Mountainsmith holds my iPad with no problem, which is something I'm wondering about with the Sabercat.

Here on the Oregon coast there is no place to look at or try any packs to check fit. I was looking at the Malaga too. I have the Monsoon, but no organization, I'm looking for something to hold my iPad, and EDC stuff, thoughts?
 
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