sacrificial anode on knives to prevent rust?

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I was learning about why steel rusts, turns out ships use a sacrificial zinc anode to attract all the rust away from the hull and propellers

Can the same be done for knives?

I saw that Sheffield makes an old style carbon steel hunting knife with a zinc pommel

Haven't tested it but sounds awesome if it works.

any of you guys try it out?
 
Pretty sure it would require a power source.
 
From wikipedia:
A galvanic anode is the main component of a galvanic cathodic protection (CP) system used to protect buried or submerged metal structures from corrosion.
They are made from a metal alloy with a more "active" voltage (more negative reduction potential / more positive electrochemical potential) than the metal of the structure. The difference in potential between the two metals means that the galvanic anode corrodes, so that the anode material is consumed in preference to the structure.
The loss (or sacrifice) of the anode material gives rise to the alternative name of sacrificial anode.

CP works by introducing another metal (the galvanic anode) with a much more anodic surface, so that all the current will flow from the introduced anode and the metal to be protected becomes cathodic in comparison to the anode. This effectively stops the oxidation reactions on the metal surface by transferring them to the galvanic anode, which will be sacrificed in favour of the structure under protection.[6]
For this to work there must be an electron pathway between the anode and the metal to be protected (e.g., a wire or direct contact) and an ion pathway between both the oxidizing agent (e.g., water or moist soil) and the anode, and the oxidizing agent and the metal to be protected, thus forming a closed circuit; therefore simply bolting a piece of active metal such as zinc to a less active metal, such as mild steel, in air (a poor conductor and therefore no closed circuit) will not furnish any protection.
Seems that for this to work the knife would have to be submerged all the time. Maybe it will do something on a diving knife but only while in the water, if it gets out the protection stops.
 
I don't think any type of cathode will do much good for a knife as far as corrosion protection goes. Cathode protection in the marine environment needs an aqueous environment to function, without say salt water surrounding the cathode and the item it's supposed to protect it is unable to generate its ionic field. For example the lower unit of a boat motor, while in the water the cathodes can create an ionic field that travels through the water and surrounds the boat motor while it's in the water with an ionic field, the water it self is the conductor like a copper wire from a light switch to a light bulb, take away the wire and the light won't go on. I've made a lot of carbon steel knives with brass guards which is about 40% zinc and have not seen any benefit from it as far as corrosion goes. For corrosion resistance IMHO stainless is probably the way to go.
 
DBH, just cave and commision a titanium Puukko - it'll be impervious to the elements😆😆😆
 
i saw a tv show about the statue of liberty, they use those anodes inside on the steel frame to prevent rust.
 
Anodes also were used for steel underground storage tanks (UST) for different fuels and on oil platforms. I have never really understood the big fuss about preventing rust. I have lived my whole life in very humid areas near both fresh and salt water. Iv'e never had a rust issue as it is very easy to take care of your high carbon knives and tools.
 
Anodes also were used for steel underground storage tanks (UST) for different fuels and on oil platforms. I have never really understood the big fuss about preventing rust. I have lived my whole life in very humid areas near both fresh and salt water. Iv'e never had a rust issue as it is very easy to take care of your high carbon knives and tools.
One wonders how our forefathers carved out entire nations using carbon steel knives ;-)
 
They knew how to take care of their tools !

Not at all practical - cleaning drying and oil is the easy way.
You could also ask " Mr Titanium [Mecha ] for helpful hints !
 
you guys are awesome thank you, always learning cool stuff here :)
 
I just had the same question. And thinking about it, i think the brass/copper pins that are usually used in knifes can make the steel as sacrificial metal, look at the oxidential potentials:

Fe → Fe2+ + 2e- = 0.44 V

Cu+ → Cu2+ + e- = -0.16V

Makes sense?
 
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