Sage 2 input

crom

crom

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So, I've really been thinking of a ti framelock and i'm leaning towards the Sage 2. At its price it doesn't seem to have any equal. I have been watching youtube reviews and it seems some have off-center blades. Is this an anomaly or is it expected given its low price? Anything else you guys care to share on carrying (really looking for edc feedback) this knife? I'm looking for more of a classy, "gents" (hate that term) knife that I'm not worried about using in mixed company. It just looks so damn classy. But how does it hold up?
thanks,
K
 
Personally, I have never seen an off centered blade from the Spyderco Taichung facility in Taiwan out of at least 10 knives I have personally purchased. All dead on and I'm super picky about any off centering.

I have had every Sage and none have been measurably off centered. The Sage 2 is the best of the Sage series IMHO and I will never sell mine.

Mine has been dropped, through the washing machine and carried probably more than 100 times and apart from the scuffs from the washing machine on the scale, it's perfect. Furthermore, I have taken mine apart a few times for thorough cleaning and lubing and it comes back to center perfectly each time. Even my lockbar has never been sticky and for a Ti framelock, that's saying something.
 
The Sage2 should have a centered blade. If it isn't, a quick and easy adjustment will have it perfectly centered. As for holding up under use, I don't see anything on it that would fail under normal use. It's just a great knife and dare I say, has one up on the CR Sebenza.... the wire clip!

Make that two advantages since I prefer the thumb hole to a thumb stud.
I must say though that the Sage1 is even better in my book.
 
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The Sage 2 is my EDC blade. I can't remember how long I've had it, but I got it within a couple months of the release, so it has been awhile. I sold a Sebenza to get it and I don't regret it a bit. In my opinion Spyderco hit one out of the park with this knife. Great ergos, I am a fan of Ti scales, and I love a flat ground blade. I don't baby mine and I can't imagine it ever letting me down. I don't think you'll be disappointed if you get one. This knife might have lost Spyderco some sales as I pretty much stopped buying knives as soon as I got it. That is changing as I have a ZDP ladybug on the way and the upcoming Chapparral and Techno look like must have knives also.

Grizz
 
The Sage 2 is by far my favorite Spyderco knife of all time.

Deep wire clip, FFG s30v, ease of an RIL [frame lock], and the comfort of Spyderco's notorious ergonomic handles.

All this compacted into a ~3" knife.
The Sage 2 if my favorite knife next to my Sebenza and think that says a lot. The blade on mine is perfectly centered. The knife is super thin and carries oh so well. With the wire clip and Ti it is completely pocket safe for any type of pants. I have a pet peeve with G10 when clipped because it just destroys my jeans.

I can't imagine anyone being dissatisfied with the Sage 2 for the role of an EDC knife.
You've seen reviews so I don't need to go on about it's features, but it's honestly my favorite offering from Spyderco for EDC. :)
 
Echoing what Reeek said, I own at least a dozen knives from Spyderco's Taiwan factory (including all three Sages), and all have had dead-center blades.
 
As has been stated, Taiwan Spyderco's are the most consistently centered blades from any production facility. I have about 5 of them so far, and every single one is dead freakin' center. My Sage 2 is no exception.

BTW, Sage 2 is basically your best bet for a gent type folder. However, there is one rival, IMO, for a super high value, high quality Ti RIL--The Chokwe. That is one awesome knife. But if you don't have a Sage yet, you should should get one, and the Sage 2 is amazing as well. I have all 3 Sages :)
 
mentaculus said:
BTW, Sage 2 is basically your best bet for a gent type folder. However, there is one rival, IMO, for a super high value, high quality Ti RIL--The Chokwe. That is one awesome knife. But if you don't have a Sage yet, you should should get one, and the Sage 2 is amazing as well. I have all 3 Sages :)
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Excellent suggestion. The Chokwe is an incredibly underrated (or at least under-discussed) knife, and a superb value given its materials and build quality -- again from Spyderco's Taiwan factory. It's easily one of the best slicers I've ever owned, with its only serious competition in that department coming from some of the other FFG Spydies.
 
neuron said:
Excellent suggestion. The Chokwe is an incredibly underrated (or at least under-discussed) knife, and a superb value given its materials and build quality -- again from Spyderco's Taiwan factory. It's easily one of the best slicers I've ever owned, with its only serious competition in that department coming from some of the other FFG Spydies.
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Right on--it has such a thin grind, it's one of the sharpest knives I own, and like you said, it slices like crazy. I'm a sucker for really thin grinds (hence, the Caly 3 is probably my favorite Spydie). Also, I love the action of the lock. Not that the Sage 2 isn't great, but the Chokwe is probably the smoothest knife I own, and the engagement of the lockbar creates such a satisfying "snap", it is one of my favorite knives to fondle, and to carry and use. Also, it's deceptively ergonomic, I can get a really nice, comfortable grip on it.
 
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Right on--it has such a thin grind, it's one of the sharpest knives I own, and like you said, it slices like crazy. I'm a sucker for really thin grinds (hence, the Caly 3 is probably my favorite Spydie). Also, I love the action of the lock. Not that the Sage 2 isn't great, but the Chokwe is probably the smoothest knife I own, and the engagement of the lockbar creates such a satisfying "snap", it is one of my favorite knives to fondle, and to carry and use. Also, it's deceptively ergonomic, I can get a really nice, comfortable grip on it.
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Agreed on all counts, particularly the part in bold. "Deceptively ergonomic" really is the perfect description -- the ergos were definitely the thing that most pleasantly surprised me with the Chokwe. The coffin-shaped handle looks rather boxy and uncomfortable in pictures, but once you get it in hand it feels as natural as any other Spydie.
 
I appreciate all the input! How about the lockbar? I saw on the spyderco forums that a couple people mentioned they thought the lockup progressed to late (opposed to early lockup) quickly?
 
MIne hasn't visually moved at all. Still about 20% for well over a year now.

crom said:
I appreciate all the input! How about the lockbar? I saw on the spyderco forums that a couple people mentioned they thought the lockup progressed to late (opposed to early lockup) quickly?
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Yeah, mine started at about 30-40%, and hasn't moved at all (granted, I haven't had it too long).

Maybe the people who said theirs progressed quickly were slamming it open really hard or something. That's the only way I can imagine that would happen, because the stop pin would need to get dented/deformed in my experience for that to happen.
 
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Yeah, mine started at about 30-40%, and hasn't moved at all (granted, I haven't had it too long).

Maybe the people who said theirs progressed quickly were slamming it open really hard or something. That's the only way I can imagine that would happen, because the stop pin would need to get dented/deformed in my experience for that to happen.
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That is my understanding of it as well. I remember reading on the Spyderco forum that Sal mentioned getting a number of Sage II's in for warranty work that had premature wear of the lockup due to obviously having been flicked open excessively. I generally don't flick knives, so I'm not worried. I like a smooth, above all controlled opening.

I had a Sage II for about a year where the lockup didn't move at all from the initial lock engagement (although I didn't use it thaaaat much). For some reason, I ended up selling it, but have since acquired a new one.

Fit and finish on the first was superb, as is the fit and finish of the second. If anything, the second one is better. The edge bevel (not the blade grind) was slightly asymmetrical on the first (which is not unusual), and is visually perfectly symmetrical on my current Sage II.

They also seem to be using loctite in the screws now, as I could easily remove the screw for the wireclip on my old one, and can't for the life of me get it to come loose on my current (even with dipping it in hot water). I had been planning to swap the low-ride wireclip with one of the higher-riding wireclips from models like the Poliwog or Dodo, since I find that clip to feel better in-hand, but it's fine as is and I don't want to strip it out.
 
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Just picked up a Sage 2 and I can't be happier. Has a very high quality feel to it with a super smooth and controlled action.
 
I just got my first Spyderco, a Sage 2. I am very please with it.

The blade is slightly off center, but not touching the scale - no big deal for me.

The lock was sticky, but the sharpy pen trick worked like a charm.

The pivot was a little gritty at first, but some Break Free and working the blade a few hundred times has made it as smooth as glass.

The blade was easily the sharpest factory edge I've ever recieved.

I really like it and it has moved into my primary EDC postition.
 
A year or so ago I was trying (and trying) to find more of a mid-sized knife that I could use as an EDC to replace my two knife EDC rotation of the Benchmade Skirmish and the original Manix C95.

I bought the Sage 2 and I've never looked back, the build quality is excellent, fits my hand like a glove and cuts like a scalpel. It took a week or so to get use to the smaller size (still just over 7") but there isn't anything I'd change on this knife. This was my first experience with the Spyderco wire clip and before the knife arrived I was concerned that I wouldn't like it but I could tell after the first day of carrying it that it was now my favorite style of clip....not too tight, not too loose, just perfect. I consider the Sage 2 to be functional jewelry, it's beautiful and cuts like a razor and lockup couldn't be any better.

The day my knife arrived the lockbar was at about 50% and I just checked it and that's right were it is today. The blade was centered the day it arrived (one of the first things I check) and remains perfectly centered today. It took several days use, maybe a week before opening and closing became buttery smooth. I can't recommend the Sage 2 highly enough.
 
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