Sage 2 vs Leafstorm

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Hey guys, I just got a new job so I want to buy something nice for myself. I've decided i want a Ti Framelock because I've never really used one (I did own a ZT302 because i got it in a trade, but I sold it right away so I didnt use it). I want something smaller that will fit the edc role. I don't use my knives super heavily so I dont need a big ol' knife.

Anyways, as you guys guessed I'm considering the Sage 2 and Leafstorm. Has anyone owned both? What do you guys like about either one? And does anyone have any pics of them side by side? Thanks!
 
dont have a leafstorm, but I know you can't go wrong with a Sage 2 (speaking from experience)
 
Don't have a leaf storm either and would like one..

With that note I DO have a Sage 2 and I LOVE it!

Just by looks I could see the ergos are not nearly as good on the storm as the sage 2 and the Ti slab side is very thin on the storm says many here. Not to mention it costs the same or more than the Sage 2...Just some thoughts. I still want a Leaf Storm but I feel the Sage 2 is more practical and you will fall in love with it.

sage & sage2

Size comparisons..




Not the Greatest pics....Here too is a link for someone who did a thorough review of the Sage 2. This will probably impact your choice lol

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=722495
 
Have a LeafStorm and love it. Those who say Ti side is too thin probably don't own one. If the Sebenza is the Gold standard and rated a 10, then LeafStorm is a 9.5. EXCELLENT F&F. Uses CRK style bushing system and has no blade play and crisp lock up.

Closest comparison would be a Strider PT at twice the price.

Have used mine hard since last Aug. with no problems. You just gotta like the funky Euro look.
 
wally@ferguson said:
Have a LeafStorm and love it. Those who say Ti side is too thin probably don't own one. If the Sebenza is the Gold standard and rated a 10, then LeafStorm is a 9.5. EXCELLENT F&F. Uses CRK style bushing system and has no blade play and crisp lock up.

Closest comparison would be a Strider PT at twice the price.

Have used mine hard since last Aug. with no problems. You just gotta like the funky Euro look.
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+1 on the look ;)
I love it too and will do a video on youtube in the near future on the leafstorm.
Don't have the sage so can't say anything about that.
the leafstorm is just a very good fit and finish and a very special knife. great g10, very nice blade shape and functional too. It's small and people friendly, but has some real power in it.
 
Get the Sage 2 for sure. I am familair with both and I wouldn't hesitate to stick with the Sage 2 were I asked to pick just one of them ;)
 
Kevin Wilkins design gets my vote, or you can go buy one of his $700.00eu customs.
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The lack of a finger choil or thumb ramp makes me wary of the Leafstorm. If you actually plan on using the knife for cutting, I'd go with the Sage 2. A bit more purchase for your hand, a bit more ergonomic and a full flat grind make it the better user, IMO.
 
thanks for everyone whos posted so far! the only thing that's really bothering me about the leafstorm is the lack of choil, or anytihng in front of your finger keeping it from sliding forward. now i dont plan on using super rough or anything but i would enjoy a littleprotection. does anyone have pictures of either of them in hand? the ffg of the sage isnt a huge issue to me but it is a plus. the thing i really liked about the leafstorm though is it uses the crk style bushings. the sage doesnt does it?
 
I don't have any trouble using the Leafstorm.

If you know how to properly handle a knife, you don't need a choil. Besides this is a gentleman's folder with a 2.5" blade, it's not like you're going to be stabbing anything with it.
 
LOVE my Sage 2. I don't have a leaf storm but I will say that the Sage is about as small as I would want in a edc blade(most of the time).
 
Leafstorm. :thumbup:
Use the palm-loaded grip, your hand will not slide forward then. ;)
 
I don't own Leafstorm, but I have handled one briefly. I do own both versions of the Sage.

As a collectible, the Leafstorm is the obvious choice. Historically, Spyderco's collaboration models have appreciated in value more consistently, if not always more dramatically, than their in house designs.

For a user, it's a tougher choice. Both knives are well built, arguably overbuilt for their respective sizes. Both use the same steel. So it comes down to tastes and preferences. Do you favor a a half ti/ half G-10 or one with an all titanium one? Which suits your needs better, a 2.5" saber ground blade or a 3" full flat ground one? Are you looking for a small, 2.5 oz. gentleman's folder or a somewhat more robust 3.5 oz. one. Do you favor a flat steel or wire clip? Do you require a lanyard hole, or can you live without it? Is a knife which you have to remember how to grip and close acceptable, or do you prefer one which will not bite you unless you do something incredibly dumb? Does it matter to you where a knife is made, or is fit and finish more important?

Personally, aside from the "prestige" of it being a collaboration with Kevin Wilkins, there is nothing about the Leafstorm I find appealing. I find the translucent G-10 extremely unappealing, prefer a full flat ground blade and, while I'm generally careful with my knives, prefer to use one which will not penalize me if I use it while preoccupied. So, even if I was right handed I would not own one. On the other hand, I was impressed enough with both the build quality and the ergonomics of the Sage when I got to handle one that I purchased both the CF and titanium versions, despite their being "wrong handed". I would definitely carry one of them, probably the CF, occasionally if it had a left handed lock or I suddenly woke up right handed.

Paul
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The ergos and "safety" of the grip have been an issue since the first pictures appeared. Most , if not all of these comments were made by experts analyzing the pics.

I have not read any negatives re ergo and safety from owners who have used the LeafStorm for a while. I have used mine for over half a year with no handling problems.

On a 2.5 in folder I don't use a grip where a finger choil is important. I like different well made folders and buy them as users which I rotate.

In fact I prefer the LeafStorm when reducing cardboard for recycle.
 
wally@ferguson said:
The ergos and "safety" of the grip have been an issue since the first pictures appeared. Most , if not all of these comments were made by experts analyzing the pics.

I have not read any negatives re ergo and safety from owners who have used the LeafStorm for a while. I have used mine for over half a year with no handling problems.
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well said :thumbup:
 
wally@ferguson said:
The ergos and "safety" of the grip have been an issue since the first pictures appeared. Most , if not all of these comments were made by experts analyzing the pics.
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Perhaps I'm jumping to the wrong conclusion, so forgive me if I'm incorrect in assuming I was one of those "experts" of whom you spoke.

I'd hope anyone asking for "likes and dislikes" realizes they are asking for opinions. Comments on ergonomics are exactly that, opinions, and very personal and subjective opinions at that. Hands are not uniform, nor are two people with the same size hands necessarily going to agree on what feels comfortable in them. As I mentioned, I did handle the Leafstorm. It did not feel anywhere near as comfortable or secure in my hand as a Kopa or Urban, both of which have roughly the same dimensions. Don't think handling one for a longer period of time would change my mind about that.

As for the other. For me, it's not about safety as much as the potential for discomfort and inconvenience. Almost every "review" post by those who purchased a Leafstorm when it first came out included the comment that the back corner of the edge had drawn blood. Nobody seriously injured, just nicked. Most of those reports came from folks of reasonable intelligence with a fair degree of experience using knives and at least a couple of them from folks whose opinions I hold in high regard.

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softrockrenegade said:
dont own either but would pick the leaf storm just because its made in golden!!!
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I understand your point of view but I must say that the Sage 2 has shown me that Taiwan is very capable of making knives on par with anyone. I don't know if that is because Spyderco is involved in the process but I for one was a bit stunned by the quality of the Sage 2 folder. This knife is as close to flawless as you can get in a production folder in my opinion. I don't own one yet but I would imagine that the Sage 1 is of the very same high quality.

We'd all love for all our knives to me made in America but as has been stated before most of our electronic devices including our computers are filled with parts from China and Taiwan and that seems to be an accepted fact that bothers very few. Just my opinion. :)
 
I would love a leafstorm. The only thing stopping me is that pocket clip + lack of lanyard hole. I prefer a subdued clip, and if I can't have it, I'd just put a lanyard on it like my PT CC...
 
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