Sage 2 weak detent

[martinlutherbling]

Hey all,
I bought a used Sage 2 on the exchange and it came today. Like my Sage 1, it's a beautiful and well crafted knife. Unlike my Sage 1, the detent is fairly weak. I can shake the blade out without too much effort, but more importantly it makes it difficult for me to deploy the blade consistently. Is there something I can do to fix this, or does it need to go back to Spyderco?

 

[The Deacon]

Hey all,
I bought a used Sage 2 on the exchange and it came today. Like my Sage 1, it's a beautiful and well crafted knife. Unlike my Sage 1, the detent is fairly weak. I can shake the blade out without too much effort, but more importantly it makes it difficult for me to deploy the blade consistently. Is there something I can do to fix this, or does it need to go back to Spyderco?

If I'm reading your post correctly, and you bought used on the BF Exchange, then your best recourse would be to tell contact the seller and explain that you're not satisfied.

 

[martinlutherbling]

The knife is good otherwise, I'd prefer not to return it if I have an alternative.

 

[The Deacon]

The knife is good otherwise, I'd prefer not to return it if I have an alternative.

Understandable, but since the knife is used, you have no way of knowing if the knife has been disassembled, which would void the warranty, or if the owner, in an attempt to make the knife more "flickable", intentionally bent the lockbar outward to reduce detent tension.

 

[Barman1]

Understandable, but since the knife is used, you have no way of knowing if the knife has been disassembled, which would void the warranty, or if the owner, in an attempt to make the knife more "flickable", intentionally bent the lockbar outward to reduce detent tension.

^^This^^ and I wouldn't chance bending titanium more than twice.

 

[stickymeat]

my sage2 detent isnt very strong either, but I like it like that and its not weak enough to open that easily. Could there be something in the detent hole?

 

[martinlutherbling]

How much downward pressure should a locked open blade be able to withstand? I can hold the knife around the choil, apply moderate pressure with my thumb on the spine jimping, and the blade will release. The knife even bit me pretty good the first time I tried this test. None of my other knives will unlock with that little pressure...is that typical for a Sage 2?
Anyway, the knife was sold to me with a chip in the blade. Naturally, first thing I did was sharpen it out. Now the seller is saying the knife is mine for modifying it, because obviously it was in better shape with the chip. Guess I'm SOL

 

[Barman1]

How much downward pressure should a locked open blade be able to withstand? I can hold the knife around the choil, apply moderate pressure with my thumb on the spine jimping, and the blade will release. The knife even bit me pretty good the first time I tried this test. None of my other knives will unlock with that little pressure...is that typical for a Sage 2?
Anyway, the knife was sold to me with a chip in the blade. Naturally, first thing I did was sharpen it out. Now the seller is saying the knife is mine for modifying it, because obviously it was in better shape with the chip. Guess I'm SOL

Sounds to me like the lock bar was bent out (as previously mentioned) or wasn't bent in enough to begin with.
It shouldn't slip when locked up.

 

[martinlutherbling]

Should I attempt to bend the lockbar in a bit?

 

[AF]

Why not ask the original owner if he modified it? If you don't receive an adequate response, look for clues that the knife was disassembled like partial stripping of the screw heads.
I'd suggest you send it in to Spyderco. The lock should not release under hand pressure. The knife is unsafe.

 

[martinlutherbling]

The screws look ok, and the previous owner denies having modified it. That said, this is obviously not a functioning knife. I'll contact Spyderco and keep my fingers crossed. Here's a quick vid to show what I'm talking about.
http://youtu.be/glhH_DmbxKY

 

[Barman1]

The screws look ok, and the previous owner denies having modified it. That said, this is obviously not a functioning knife. I'll contact Spyderco and keep my fingers crossed. Here's a quick vid to show what I'm talking about.
http://youtu.be/glhH_DmbxKY

Yep, I'd ship it back to Spyderco for service. It's probably not a warranty problem so it may cost you a few bucks but they should be able to get it right for you.
And try not to slip the lock too much. The more it slips the more of a wear pattern you're creating making a permanent fix more difficult.

 

[brownshoe]

First make sure the knife is tight. Tighten all the screws. If it still closes w/o disengaging the lock, send it back.

 

[shunsui]

Yeah that's the one problem with the Sage2, it doesn't have an overtravel stop for the Ti lockbar. Very easy to push too far when playing with the knife. I'd be careful lending a Sage2 to someone.