Sage 4 - what's it going to be?

EZ Bake

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Has anyone heard any news on what the Sage 4 is supposed to have for a locking mechanism or build materials?

Since they're dedicating each Sage to a designer, I don't know of too many folder locking mechanisms left (outside of liner/RIL/Bolt-Action) other than back-lock or compression-lock, but with the Native 4 coming out with a bushing system and a nice smooth back-lock (and very similar overall shape to the Sage), I would think they would do something other than a back-lock.

I am excited for the next edition to the Sage series as I've now decided to get a Sage 2 and a Para 2 (mostly to try out a Colorado-made Spydie and the Compression lock) while I'm waiting on the Native 4.
 
As boring it would be compared to the other sages, I would like to see just a simple black g10 handle with a liner lock and the traditional s30v blade.
 
I'm hoping for compression or ball bearing lock with either peel ply CF or foilage G10. I would say they would do a lock back but then the sage would be wayyy too close to the caly 3. Ball bearing lock would be sick. Like a mini manix 2.
 
Far as I know the plan is still for a Mar/McBurnette midlock with an Al Mar style long bolster.
 
The Deacon said:
Far as I know the plan is still for a Mar/McBurnette midlock with an Al Mar style long bolster.
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I see that its already been discussed over on the Spydie forums - I may have to go register there.

Thank you so much for the info.
 
I also think a sage with a ball lock would be pretty cool also I wonder what maker this sage will be about.
 
I think a Sage done in a tribute to McHenry and Williams would be 100% awesome.
 
I don't care too much what kind of lock it has as long as it is not in some funky color. That's the thing that kept me from buying the Sage 3. I just don't like blue or orange or red or yellow, etc. on my knife handle.
 
EZ Bake said:
I think a Sage done in a tribute to McHenry and Williams would be 100% awesome.
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Same here -- the Axis is definitely an iconic locking mechanism. I'm sure getting Benchmade to license the Axis for use on a Sage -- and even if they were amenable to doing so, agreeing on the specific terms of the arrangement -- would be a fairly big hurdle, though.

Another locking mechanism that I'd love to see on a Sage at some point is the Hawk Lock.
 
I believe it is going to use the front lock and Al Mar style bolster as mentioned above. It doesn't tickle my fancy. I'd love to see a plain black G10 and compression lock.
 
Micarta is too flexbiel to use on a Folder without Liners, so I think a Liner like the Sage1 will have to be mandatory if this material were to be chosen

I know there is some really nice Micarta out there
 
EZ Bake said:
I see that its already been discussed over on the Spydie forums - I may have to go register there.

Thank you so much for the info.
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YVW, FWIW, it has been discussed here as well. More than once in fact.



whetrock said:
I also think a sage with a ball lock would be pretty cool also I wonder what maker this sage will be about.
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Sal also mentioned that the ball lock was the only Spyderco designed lock he was not completely sure would be able to fit in the Sage platform. That was quite a while ago, so they may know for certain by now, one way or the other.

xtestifyx said:
Micarta is too flexbiel to use on a Folder without Liners, so I think a Liner like the Sage1 will have to be mandatory if this material were to be chosen
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Take it you never handled a C54 Calypso. Spyderco stopped doing unlined micarta for the same reason they stopped doing unlined G-10, issues with clip screws ripping out. Had nothing to do with flex. The wire clip seems to have solved that problem, as witnessed by the unlined G-10 UKPKs, so it might place unlined micarta back on the table as well.
 
The Deacon said:
Take it you never handled a C54 Calypso. Spyderco stopped doing unlined micarta for the same reason they stopped doing unlined G-10, issues with clip screws ripping out. Had nothing to do with flex. The wire clip seems to have solved that problem, as witnessed by the unlined G-10 UKPKs, so it might place unlined micarta back on the table as well.
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I have never had the pleasure to find a Calypso in person, so you are right.

However, it's my understanding that G10 and Micarta material flexes when they are thin. Around 3/16" to 1/4" and there will be no play

I suspect that the Sage 1's liners are thicker than the Superleaf's and has less "bend-ability." It looks as if the G-10 and Liner on a each side of the Superleaf adds up to 1/8" and very noticeable flex on some places

It's not a big problem to me but I'd prefer a Spyderco without such play
 
i think that an emerson sage would be cool.
a ti liner lock with g10 scales and a wave opener
 
The Deacon said:
YVW, FWIW, it has been discussed here as well. More than once in fact.
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That's my bad man, my search-foo must be weak since the upgrade to the message board - I seriously attempted searching for it. Maybe I'll have to go to google's site-search for this place too (other forums I visit regularly who recently upgraded to Vbulletin 4.1 also seem to have lost a step in searching).
 
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