sage 5?

wolf5391

wolf5391

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Ok in light of the thread on the looks and construction of the sage 5 i thought id throw in my two scents. So heres a quick drawing of a sage 2 mixed with a flavio ikoma design. Im not too sure how well the writing will turn out in the pictue but the flats would be a polished satin while the under tones would be bead blasted. The pocket clip would be blue anodized and so would the dipples/holes cut out all throughout the handle. The blade would be s30v or 154cm and would have a rounded spine. The real "kicker" no pun intended would be the flipper IKBS designed bearing system. This knife would be sick, and honestly i might be installing bearings in my sage 2 just to see what its like.

Anyways let me know what you guys think, and i would love to see what Sal thinks about this design although it will probably only stay a design.

Also, sorry for the terrible quality photos guys but i hope you get the gist.


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Love it! The flipper looks like a natural part of the design, really nice.

They wouldn't do another frame lock, though, because that contradicts the purpose of the Sage series. Here is the first line of their description: "Spyderco's Sage Series pays tribute to knifemakers who pioneer locking mechanisms in the cutlery industry."
 
kreole said:
Love it! The flipper looks like a natural part of the design, really nice.

They wouldn't do another frame lock, though, because that contradicts the purpose of the Sage series. Here is the first line of their description: "Spyderco's Sage Series pays tribute to knifemakers who pioneer locking mechanisms in the cutlery industry."
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yah i know but i think it would be an awesome design, and in a way flavio ikoma developed the bearing system in knives so he could technically be a pioneer. But he isnt a pioneer in locking mechanisms only awesome smooth opening pivots :D
 
I agree that, given the logic of the Sage series, it's very unlikely that a lock design will be reused. Beyond that, I don't think I will ever see the logic of adding a flipper to a Spyderco. Spyderhole opener has always been 100% reliable for me while my admittedly limited experience with flipper opening has been mixed, at best. Beyond that, I see the flipper projection on the blade as something that could cause the blade to open part way in my pocket.
 
The Deacon said:
I agree that, given the logic of the Sage series, it's very unlikely that a lock design will be reused. Beyond that, I don't think I will ever see the logic of adding a flipper to a Spyderco. Spyderhole opener has always been 100% reliable for me while my admittedly limited experience with flipper opening has been mixed, at best. Beyond that, I see the flipper projection on the blade as something that could cause the blade to open part way in my pocket.
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its just a new design to throw out there, and the flipper is actually a proven concept. Most of the knives I have are flippers and they have never opened in my pocket. I guess it comes down to how strong the detent is. Also, I know the spydy hole is 100% effective but this design doesnt eliminate the hole it just gives another way of opening the knife as well.
 
wolf5391 said:
its just a new design to throw out there, and the flipper is actually a proven concept. Most of the knives I have are flippers and they have never opened in my pocket. I guess it comes down to how strong the detent is. Also, I know the spydy hole is 100% effective but this design doesnt eliminate the hole it just gives another way of opening the knife as well.
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Carry method may be a factor too, I carry loose in my back pocket, so the idea of a projection on the blade is not appealing. Probably a moot point anyway as every flipper equipped knife I've ever seen or handled had a wrong handed lock.
 
Holy Crap (I love it)!

I was just looking at my Sage 1 after my Sage 5 post the other night and I was thinking that you could extend the forward part of the finger-choil to make a flipper pretty much just like you drew it.

The only problem I was looking at is that the lower part of the finger choil ends up pretty low in between the scales when the knife is closed (this is why I assume most flippers don't have choils built into the blade-side of the knife) so it hurts the leverage you get when flipping a blade with the flipper that close to the pivot (or so I would imagine - I'm not an expert here by any means). Still - its workable (the Sage 3 had to be slightly modified with a larger overall handle to accommodate the bolt-action, so technically, they could do something similar to this design in order to make it flow better).

You could also extend the bottom part of the choil for the flipper (it would require relocating the stop-pin from where it is on my Sage 1/2, but it looks doable). It would make for a slightly ackward grip around the choil when the blade is opened (with the flipper sticking out between your first/second finger), but that doesn't necessarily bother me (jimping on the flipper might come into contact with your fingers I guess).

Now - if you took and swapped out the RIL with a compression lock in this design, you'd be giving credit to whomever invented/popularized the flipper, and IKBS so Sal/Eric wouldn't be technically tooting their own horn (so to speak).

You could also go with a smaller Spyder-Hole due to the flipper if you wanted to make it a little unique to the Sage 5.

I absolutely love that drawing man. I seriously hope Sal chimes in.
 
Hi Wolf,

Interesting concept, but not within the framework of the Sage project.

We do have a flipper in-the-works. We've designed a few, but always held back. The one that we're planning is a collaboration.

sal
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Wolf,

Interesting concept, but not within the framework of the Sage project.

We do have a flipper in-the-works. We've designed a few, but always held back. The one that we're planning is a collaboration.

sal
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I'd love to see a flipper design with a 9mm Spyderhole :D
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Wolf,

Interesting concept, but not within the framework of the Sage project.

We do have a flipper in-the-works. We've designed a few, but always held back. The one that we're planning is a collaboration.

sal
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Very cool. I always wondered if Spyderco would ever do a flipper. Now I'm curious as to who the collaboration is with...
 
EZ Bake said:
Very cool. I always wondered if Spyderco would ever do a flipper. Now I'm curious as to who the collaboration is with...
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I recall seeing over on the green forum a maker who submitted a flipper to Spyderco. That maker was Brad Southard.
 
EZ Bake said:
Holy Crap (I love it)!

I was just looking at my Sage 1 after my Sage 5 post the other night and I was thinking that you could extend the forward part of the finger-choil to make a flipper pretty much just like you drew it.

The only problem I was looking at is that the lower part of the finger choil ends up pretty low in between the scales when the knife is closed (this is why I assume most flippers don't have choils built into the blade-side of the knife) so it hurts the leverage you get when flipping a blade with the flipper that close to the pivot (or so I would imagine - I'm not an expert here by any means). Still - its workable (the Sage 3 had to be slightly modified with a larger overall handle to accommodate the bolt-action, so technically, they could do something similar to this design in order to make it flow better).

You could also extend the bottom part of the choil for the flipper (it would require relocating the stop-pin from where it is on my Sage 1/2, but it looks doable). It would make for a slightly ackward grip around the choil when the blade is opened (with the flipper sticking out between your first/second finger), but that doesn't necessarily bother me (jimping on the flipper might come into contact with your fingers I guess).

Now - if you took and swapped out the RIL with a compression lock in this design, you'd be giving credit to whomever invented/popularized the flipper, and IKBS so Sal/Eric wouldn't be technically tooting their own horn (so to speak).

You could also go with a smaller Spyder-Hole due to the flipper if you wanted to make it a little unique to the Sage 5.

I absolutely love that drawing man. I seriously hope Sal chimes in.
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its funny because your thought process is exaclty the same as mine when i drew the design out :) great minds think alike
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Wolf,

Interesting concept, but not within the framework of the Sage project.

We do have a flipper in-the-works. We've designed a few, but always held back. The one that we're planning is a collaboration.

sal
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figured but im very interested in a flipper from you guys. Keep up the good work
 
Oh yes, got to handle that beauty during the Amsterdam meet in march this year....
It rocks! Perfect size 'n shape, smooth as butter.
 
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