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Sage I Carbon Fiber and S&W
- Thread starter Amaranth
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Those Airweights aren't bad once you get the factory grips off of 'em and get something easier to control on there. My wife totes a 642 around. She loads 138 grain Federal +P JHP in hers and keeps a 5 round speed loader handy. She likes the fact that it's hammerless and it doesn't get caught on anything in her purse when she's pullin' it.
She... um... carries a dog paw Sebbie with it, though. But she does have a ZDP189 D4 in her desk at work for the rough stuff.
She... um... carries a dog paw Sebbie with it, though. But she does have a ZDP189 D4 in her desk at work for the rough stuff.
The effective range of one of these snubnose 38s is about 15 feet...but that's all I need it to be. I tried going with full grips but of course that makes it considerably harder to conceal.
I know that the this frame isn't rated for +P rounds. I've put a few of the hot rounds through it and there is a noticeable increase in the kick. Accuracy goes down to about 10 feet
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I know that the this frame isn't rated for +P rounds. I've put a few of the hot rounds through it and there is a noticeable increase in the kick. Accuracy goes down to about 10 feet
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The new 642 she carries is +P rated according to S&W's info. The old model 42's were not. We took it to a private range where some LEO's tested it as a B/U weapon for their use. The effective (as opposed to pinpoint) accuracy was good enough at around 15-20 feet for them to consider carrying them as a second firearm.
Thanks Odds, I've found a few secrets for taking decent pics of knives. I'm just using a point and shoot Canon, nothing too advanced here.
1) Lighting is everthing. Don't overexpose and lose the details. (as I did in the bottom pic, the glare washed out the "Spyderco CPM S30V" stamp)
2) Use the "Macro" setting. Get in close.
3) Take a lot of pictures and delete the bad ones. That's the beauty of digital. The crappy ones don't cost anything!
4) Take a look at "Sharps by Coop" in the custom forum. If you can get yours 1/100th as good as his, you're on the right track.
1) Lighting is everthing. Don't overexpose and lose the details. (as I did in the bottom pic, the glare washed out the "Spyderco CPM S30V" stamp)
2) Use the "Macro" setting. Get in close.
3) Take a lot of pictures and delete the bad ones. That's the beauty of digital. The crappy ones don't cost anything!
4) Take a look at "Sharps by Coop" in the custom forum. If you can get yours 1/100th as good as his, you're on the right track.
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Amaranth, that depends entirely on the person holding it, assuming a good quality firearm. I have a S&W model 13 with a 3" barrel and fixed sights (not much bigger than your Airweight Chief's Special) which I have used to knock down a 6" gong at 100 yards. If you take your time, use the sights and walk the shots in, you can hit almost anything. BTW, the hammer on my model 13 has been dehorned so that gong at 100 yards fell to double-action shooting.
In case you think I'm bragging, there are many others with far greater skill. I recently read an article by Masaad Ayoob who did a quick test with four 2" .38 revolvers at shorter range (25 yards IIRC) with similar results. While I'll readily grant that a 2" barrel does not offer the same precision as a rifle with a 22-26" barrel, I will find cover if someone 50-100 yards away points a 2" revolver at me.
Getting back to knives, that D4 looks like a perfect fit. I like the looks of the Sage, but my pockets need tip-down.
Thanks for posting nice pictures;
Steve
Smflorkey, I was using quite a bit of hyperbole, under range conditions, you can get a respectable amount of accuracy with a 2" barrel, much more than 15 feet of course.
To take out a target at 100 yards with fixed sights is very impressive. I have no reason to doubt you, you've obviously spent a lot more time at the range or target practice out in the sticks than I.
A few more pics of the sage!
To take out a target at 100 yards with fixed sights is very impressive. I have no reason to doubt you, you've obviously spent a lot more time at the range or target practice out in the sticks than I.
A few more pics of the sage!